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Veers
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On ghosts, I feel that yes, there are dead people out there that can contact our world. There are forces more powerful than us that we can't explain. After all, believeing in ghosts is no more crazy than believing in aliens and other worlds (which I believe are also out there, somewhere).

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First of Two
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The existence of alien life does not require the supernatural.

The existence of alien life does not require violation of the known laws of physics.

The existence of ghosts does both.

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TSN
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Well, in all fairness, physics doesn't explain human consciousness, so it can't determine whether such can exist separate from a body.
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Free ThoughtCrime America
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I believe in ghosts of the Native American/Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenence variety. I don't blelieve in ghosts of the Headless Horseman or Amityville Horror variety.
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Dat
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And I believe in ghosts of any kind. As well as good entities and evil entities. I believe in God, Allah, Yahweh or whatever you may call him/her/it. I also believe in the devil, Lucifer, Satin, or whatever you may call him/her/it. I believe in heaven, hell, and even purgatory. I believe there are portals and other passageways between these realms including our realm of the living.

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Sol System
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I scarcely believe in myself, most days.
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Nim
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One day, Holy Velvet will utterly vanquish your Satin, Dat!! [Smile]

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Diane
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quote:
WHy would there be an afterlife? and not a "before Life" so to speak.
Well, nobody ever said there couldn't be a "before life." It's part of the belief in reincarnation, actually.

EMH: Personally I believe in ghosts, but your brother could also be seeing spirits. The difference is that ghosts are earthbound and sometimes don't know they're dead, and spirits are dead people who've gone to the Other Side/afterlife/heaven and can come and visit. I don't know how old your brother is, but children, especially under age 5, tend to be very receptive to spirits/ghosts (i.e. they could see them more easily).

If you don't believe any of this, however, I suggest NOT censuring your brother for telling people about seeing ghosts. Adults tend to get quite upset when children say something like they could see their dead grandfather, and they freak out and yell at their kids for it. Kids don't know it's a taboo for some people, and telling them it's only their "imagination" confuses them rather than instructs them.

As for scientific evidence, there is plenty of research and cultural evidence (2/3 of the world believes in it in one form or another) out there for reincarnation, and rather little to none against it. My opinion on scientistic views is this: if Earth is a holodeck which we come to experience life, and in this holodeck humans breathe carbon dioxide and exhale oxygen. Then, if you were to live in this environment from birth to death, there'd be no evidence that people in the outside world breathe oxygen and exhale carbon dioxide. I'm not saying that science could never find ways to explain ghosts and that sort of thing, but outright refusal of the possibility is, well, unscientific.

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First of Two
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Fear not.. ghosts can't see. Their eyeballs and optic nerves are immaterial. No surface to reflect light. No brain to process information.

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PsyLiam
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The problem with arguing that science can't prove against ghosts is that science, by it's very nature, is designed to work on the natural, not the supernatural. You can never disprove God, ghosts, etc because they don't have to "obey" the rules, such as it were.

I also tend to go for the idea that the simplest explanation is usually the most accurate. If a kid claims to be seeing ghosts, and the options are:

1/ He is closer to the supernatural realm, or
2/ He has a very active imagination...

I'd plump for option 2 every time.

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capped
I WAS IN THE FUTURE, IT WAS TOO LATE TO RSVP
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meh, im still willing to bet we havent explained everything with science yet, there might be a few surprises out there that could make ghosts possible (verteron particles maybe!)

but, yeah the kids just need some better toys.

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