Is it wrong to want to sell my body (or more likely other people's bodies for the love of a machine that could never love me back? Beauty, power, even a nice personality. Stay tuned as to whether the love gods of invoice limbo will smile upon me and fold one of these precious and wonderful creatures into my tender embrace. *weeps openly*
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Oh, sure, it's got the numbercrunching lead NOW, but between AMD's Hammer and Intel's Itanium, there's a lot of 64-bit land to divide in CPU-country. Apple doesn't have enough oomph to promote its G5 workstation OR server solutions & make a dent in the Big Two's market share.
Besides... other than the Multimedia Boys, who needs that kind of power, anyway? Mac gamers? 8)
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Lemme ask you a question, Cartmaniac.... when was the last time anyone ever got excited (or even truly interested) in a new product from Microsoft?
For a company that has about 3% market share of current sales (and somewhere around 6% of all computers currently in use in the US), I'd say that Apple gets a HELL of a lot of attention.
Open up Time magazine to the inside cover. Watch the Super Bowl. (Or any other TV channel for a while.) Read CNN or Reuters or the New York Times. Apple is getting excellent press -- if you haven't heard of the iPod or the iTunes Music Store or the new G5, then you've been staying away from mass media for the past two or three years.
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Oh ueah, we PC users can now look forward to the experience of 64-bit Fatal Exception Errors and system crashes with the upcoming 64-bit native Windows XP, or whatever name Microsoft calls it, on the AMD Hammer, Itanium, and the recently announced Itanium 2.
Apple has always tried to be innovative, whether successful or not, and make technology sexy, exciting, and fun. Remember the Frog Design designed Macs and the iMac revolution in see-through case design? Without Apple, we would probably still be stuck with off-white as the only computer system color choice in the PC world. PCs would be much more boring than they are now if it were not for Apple.
Plus, where would Microsoft GUI improvement ideas come from if it weren't for Apple? UNIX, Linux, or open source? Not likely.
(Don't remind me of the Xerox PARC story, I know it already. Let's face it Xerox could have owned it all if they had not been so short sighted.)
But be prepared to spare no expense when buying Apple products and compatible software. You got to help Apple keep its profit margins high and their stockholders happy.
But all this 64-bit processing power is pretty meaningless, and overkill, unless there is software that is worthwhile to take advantage of this processing power.
Perhaps that killer app will be desktop video editing and creation.
But for most people, who can get excited about running their spreadsheets in Excel at 64-bit?
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quote:But be prepared to spare no expense when buying Apple products and compatible software. You got to help Apple keep its profit margins high and their stockholders happy.
As compared to, say, the prices of Microsoft Windows and Microsoft Office that keep their own stockholders happy?
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Exactly -- Unix doesn't even have one, which is a great cue for Apple to take, and do the opposite.
'Course, OS X is a Unix-based system now... but I only open up the command line if it's absolutely necessary.
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I think that Charles should add something to the TOS permabanning anyone who talks about a Mac.
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I am not going to bag on Apple since I do own a Windows iPod myself.
Whoever says that PC's are sexy need to remember that vendors like Alienware and Voodoo and Sony do make non-beige computers. True Alienware and Voodoo are more expensive while Sony loves purple, you don't have to by a boring computer if you can afford it. Apple may have made sexy computers over the last few years and threw in attractive accessories with them but there is one thing that they need to get through first... the PR that makes people say WHY BUY APPLE?
In my theory, Apple has developed a PR among the public that prevents higher sales in the computer market.
First, the software availability to Apple versus Windows. This is something I've heard time and time again with friends. Apple doesn't have the software titles that Windows has or the games take a few months to go into Mac format.
Second, office environment compatibility. This is basically still around even though OSX can be part of a Windows network and thanks to Bill Gates, Microsoft Office is available to OSX. And now Apple plans to release software that works with either the MS Office apps while not labeling them as Microsoft.
Third, Windows domination. Why go with Apple if everyone runs Windows in one form or another? It's kinda like how people in large groups behave, they just go with the flow even if it's viewed as destructive by some. If you have 21 Windows PC's and laptops to choose from, why bother with an iMac or even with a Powerbook?
So feel free to bash this theory to pieces...
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Fleet Admiral Colorge: short answer; because diversity is good. And new ideas are good. And (incidentally) I interface just fine with my PC compadres NP using OSX and it's not specifically thanks to Bill. Compatibility? Office X, smooooth. Domination? At any point ever in history/evolution ever has it been a good idea for a single entity whose only motivation is (essentially) greed to hold all of the power? Should we lie down for that? I like my mac, a lot. I kick ass with it every day. Other people kick ass with their PCs. The point is that there should be a choice and just because one is far more popular (ahem, unscrupulousmarketmanipulation) doesn't necessarily make it the best way to go for everyone. Some people (simple-minded folk, surely) like it when things are easy and evidently some of us are even willing to pay for that.
quote:Originally posted by Sol System: Apple makes computers now?
Well, actually, they're calling them e-facilitators now so as not to scare off any potential technophobic customers. Titter, titter.
And so yeah AMD's Hammer is coming, and yeah, I'm sure Intel has got some (virility-evokingly named) x86 monstrosity coming down the pipe, but this is our moment in the sun. We made it first and our computers are much much prettier than yours. Say what you like, but the G5 is one bitchin' machine. I will use it for graphics and music and video and 3D and it will be good.
I don't really see why our PC comrades insist on urinating on our dreams. The company who builds the computers we happen to love has made an incredible and progressive technical leap. We're understandably excited that Photoshop will slay, and Final Cut will dice, and iTunes will rip, and Carrara will... render, really really fast. Surely that's cause for celebration not defecation...
You poo-heads.
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