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AndrewR
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Australia to become the 51st state of the United States of America? Not bloody likely!

http://www.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,4057,6760977%255E421,00.html

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Jason Abbadon
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Why would we make you the 51st. state?
Then we'd have to build a really long interstate highway and the National Guard would have to add such military terms as "crikey" and other euphemisims vomited up by that Croc Hunter moron.

...and "Outback Steakhouse" would lose it's novelty.

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Shik
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But then we'd be abl;e to finally have some real beer. Yay for Castlemaine from Brisbane & boo to Foster's ("Australian for 'Dingo's Piss!'")!

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Omega
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Wouldn't it be, like, seven states?

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A Trans-Pacific Tunnel Hooray!

I think that we will have statehood for Puerto Rico and Canada before statehood for Australia, making Australia the 53rd state. [Razz]

Joking aside, this history professor isn't saying anything that I haven't heard from other anti-globalization intellectuals here in the United States.

Reminds me of someone, whose name I am forgetting at the moment, who claimed that Washington state was a colony of the Chinese because of all the timber that was being exported and then coming back into the United States as finished goods.

Or the reports I occasionally see in newspapers with so called "alarming" statistics about foreign ownership of American companies and major office building in my country's most cosmopolitan cities owned by foreigners. They tend to pick on Asian countries the most, Japan in particular.

It reminds me of the United States for Americans crowd who demand that immigrants should be deported. A lot of the time they are, or have ties with, racial hate groups.

But I have never read anything or heard comments by Dr. David Mosler except for the news article you linked to. Any chance that he was intentionally trying to be outrageous to start a national debate on the issues he raised? At times it sounded like he was taking the approach that Jonathan Swift used in "A Modest Proposal". By intentionally being offensive, they might listen to what I have to say?

By the way, what is this fear with Indonesia that I keep reading about in the Australian press? I remember seeing what looked like a radical conservative web site from Australia that warned of the dangers of an invasion from the brown Muslims from Indonesia and that Australia would become an Indonesian colony? Are these people dismissed as mentally ill in Australia or is there a real fear of such a scenario?

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Saltah'na
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Shut up. Canada has first dibs on number 51.

And I'll do anything to make sure that doesn't happen. [Big Grin]

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Jason Abbadon
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We'd induct Canada, but then the value of the dollar would fall, so screw it.
Remain in your frosty non-controversial country while we get rich by feeding you McDonalds food and underbidding your heavy industries......

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The359
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Why don't we give statehood to Guam? They actually WANT to be a state...

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Sol System
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Australia is a European outpost right next door to Southeast Asia, which happens to be one of the most dynamic (and therefore frightening and unsettling) regions on Earth. Of course they're going to be concerned about what happens there. The last time a nation in that part of the world came into serious power things almost ended with Australia a happy outpost of the East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere.

This reads like a bit of academic trolling, of course. For one thing, adding states is so boringly passe, not to mention economically and politically undesirable. What is this, 1803? All the points listed that aren't nonsense are already at work. If Australia wants nuclear weapons they will ask and the United States will no doubt be very happy to oblige. It worked for Canada. I don't see where statehood offers anything beyond what's already available via ANZUS.

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Sol System are you saying that Canada is a nuclear power? Are these Canadian controlled nukes, or just American "guest" nukes that currently reside on Canadian soil?

I have never seen nuclear proliferation maps that identified Canada as a nuclear power. Please tell me where you found this nugget of information. I would like to know more. (No reference to "Starship Troopers" intended.)

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Shik
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Would Canadian installaions be called "missile igloos?" Would the missiles themselves look like big carved Haida totems? Would they all be aimed at Qu�bec?

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TSN
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How can Australia become the fifty-first state of the US when it's already the sixth country of the UK?
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Sol System
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I have heard it claimed that these weapons were in fact under de facto Canadian control during the Cold War. This is, as you can probably tell, a controversial claim, and I am having some difficulty finding a cite.

At any rate, it would be trivially easy for Canada, or any Western nation, to go nuclear all by their lonesome, should they so desire.

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Triton
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Thank you for the link Sol System. Very enlightening, though I don't find the news very surprising.
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Jason Abbadon
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quote:
Originally posted by The359:
Why don't we give statehood to Guam? They actually WANT to be a state...

Certain requirements are needed to gain statehood...population being the major one Guam is lacking.

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