quote:Originally posted by B.J.: If you ever read the novel version of 2001 (which was written concurrently with the movie script), Iapetus was where the second monolith was located, not in orbit of Jupiter.
B.J.
Oh and as I *ASKED* the question - it's clear I DID NOT read the novel version of 2001. (That's just to counter any sarcasm you intended to put in your post - if there was no sarcasm intended - then ignore this post )
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Ok wait, so the monolith found on the moon was the first? It had gone down to the apes in prehistoric times, let them fondle it, then removed to the dirt of the moon? Then, when humans came and found it again, it sent a high-pitched ping to a counterpart in orbit of Saturn, referring them to a colleague?
Also, so that we are clear, the thing making the probe go ballistic and rocket away in the early probe-mission of 2010, those were the multitudes of monoliths acting? Shaking off intruders? And was this what happened to the cosmonaut? I never got why he had to die in the movie. Or wasn't it death, was it what Astronaut Dave's original "ascension" would've looked like from an outside perspective as well?
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I don't think it was ever specified what monolith visited the pre-humans on Earth. If it was either of the later ones, I guess it would have to be TMA-1. The other one was huge, as I recall.
I need to re-read 2001 one of these days.
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I am surprised at people's reactions to 2010 (I checked imdb a little), saying it is watered-down, overexplained and spoonfed story compared to Kubrick's orgasm-inducing 2001 (to cineasts).
I think it's still lightyears ahead of action movies and modern Sci-Fi like "Contact" or "Sphere". I don't consider myself a slow person but there are elements in 2010 that are really vague and multilayered to me, following the tradition of 2001.
For instance, why make a second sun? Why issue an ultimatum to mankind? Who/what is the monolith? Is it God? If so, was God born on Europa? Is Europa God's base of operations, from which he created the universe?
And, Helen Mirren IN PERM??? What is the message here??? I want to believe!
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You should read 3001: Sean Bean in Space, 3061: Odyssey Too?, 4010: Dial down the Center, 5051: TMA-1 Flight 800 and 6600: WTF DOMINOES?11, I think that your questions are answered there.
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In thirty years, I will send back a cyborg so advanced that basic pronounciation is beyond him- to kill you as a child.
That, or I'll just save my money and have someone pop a cheap hollowpoint in your ass.
I dont know what this has to do with 2001, but I'm very tired and in some small degree of physical pain.
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