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Was just wondering just then - when can Shik start posting back on the board/go on the 'net again? Was it for a year - or two years - or like forever or what? Haven't heard any info about him - did he end up getting a job - when he got out he seemed pretty hard up for money/work things like that.
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And let that be a lesson to us all. If you're going to put your penis inside a child, make sure you don't use a computer at any point in the process.
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There's plenty of minors on death row- no children though.
There is a diffrence.
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I'm not 100% sure, but I always thought that "minor" in the US meant "under-18".
So are there people aged 17 and under on death row? Fuck.
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quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: So are there people aged 17 and under on death row? Fuck.
Fortunately, not anymore. IIRC, there was a Supreme Court ruling just last week overturning the death sentences for anyone who'd committed their crime under the age of 18.
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I'm against that notion myself (of anyone under 18 being automatically ineligible for death row).
In some cases, few weeks of age is all the diffrence between a cold-blooded killer getting the death sentence and life inprisonment. (a death sentence is reserved for pre-meditation, the murder of a police officer or particularly henius murders- like killing for fun)
The ruling seems seems too cut and dry....too universal to be practical.
Really, I think that the death penalty sould only apply to minors in the most extreme circumstances (not for instance to a 12 year-old psychopath, but definitely to a 17 year old gang-banger).
These kinds of mandatory sentencing guidelines really work against justice.
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That's rarely enough consolation for the families of victims though: why should a killer live while their victim's life was cut short?
Not that capital punishment in any way involves Shik.... I hope he's building models, living in a nice apartment and working at a good job.
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AndrewR: He's doing all right. He's got a job, and he's got an apartment. He attends all the stuff that's been laid out as a part of his probation. He socializes, so he's not isolated and totally on his own. His computer ban was, I believe, two years. I think he still has another year to go on it before its lifted.
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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: That's rarely enough consolation for the families of victims though: why should a killer live while their victim's life was cut short?
And what gives you the right to end their life in any event.
Not that this should turn into a discussion on how capital punishment is blatantly wrong, of course...
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So does that means he can't even be near a computer?
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quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: That's rarely enough consolation for the families of victims though: why should a killer live while their victim's life was cut short?
And what gives you the right to end their life in any event.
Depends on weither you buy the idea of the Death Penalty as a deterrent.
I dont, I just think some people dont deserve to live based on certain crimes.
In today's newspaper there's a story (waaaay in the back) on a former Rawandan military official that (as his plea bargain) pled guilty to one count of mass murder and was sentenced to six years in prison -for ordering the deaths of over a thousand people hiding in a church. Six whole years...
Obviously, justice is lacking for some crimes.
Annnnyway, Shikkie does indeed seem to be doing allright: he's working at a sportsbar and there are many hot women around. Certainly seems that he's doing a lot better than any time in the past year or so.
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