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Ritten
A Terrible & Sick leek
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Hey, I didn't kill it, blame hollycrap for not having original ideas.

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A leek too, pretty much a negi.....

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Daniel Butler
I'm a Singapore where is my boat
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I know F451 was older than the net...I'm not saying he should've seen ahead somehow...but that doesn't mean it isn't dated anymore.
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Kosh
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quote:
Originally posted by Shik:
Asimov was no great loss.

(Beats Shik senseless)

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Mars Needs Women
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No great loss, to you maybe.
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Sol System
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Grumble grumble, conflation of books with TV, grumble.
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Shik
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Bitches, please. Asimov was an idea man only. He should've sold off that shit & let someone with talent write them up.

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Sean
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Chances are that that hired writer would fail to apply the ideas in the context that they were meant to be in. He might put have tried to put something like F451 ( which was written by Bradbury, I know, but I'm using this as an example because I am not familiar with Asimov's works) in the past, or direct present day, or too far in the future. Sometimes the correct formula is in the writer's head, and only he/she can put it on paper in a way that makes the ideas flow.

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Shik
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You can still make a layout of the idea & let someone who actually can write handle the grunt work. Happens all the time.

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Omega
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Shik, you base your opinions on reading how much Asimov, exactly? Yes, he based a lot of his stories on his (awesome) concepts of psychohistory and the three laws of robotics, and especially in the early Foundation trilogy that came at the expense of characterization. But he also wrote stories that had very powerful emotional content. Forward the Foundation is essentially the story of a great man slowly losing everyone he's ever cared about as he ages, even as he tries to leave something behind for the rest of humanity. You can see Asimov himself there, writing just before he died.

If all you've read is some of the early Foundation books, you don't know Asimov at all.

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Shik
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No, there's more that I read...it's just that none of it was particularly enough to stick with me save the 2 short stories that every & their uncle knows. And I don't read later books of a series without reading the ones that came before. And that's not like to happen any time soon.

Again, in short: Asimov--visionary brain, awful writer. There's no shame in that.

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The Ginger Beacon
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His short stories were much better - they suited his style much better. Foundation books kind of read like a text book sometimes.

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Shik
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Agreed.

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Mars Needs Women
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Yes, I enjoyed his short story version of Nightfall very much.
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Daniel Butler
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I haven't read *much* of him...a few things, here and there. Some non-fiction when I was a kid. What I remember most is, of course, the short that Shik mentioned.

I also remember ssssomething about a...companion star and planet to the Sun...hidden behind a dust cloud...sentient bacteria or somesuch...What do I google here, 'planet dustcloud asimov companion'...Aha! "Nemesis."

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Teh PW
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Imagine if Azimov or AcC helped create Macross...

in a way, he/they did...

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