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Jubilee
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The Columbine High School students filed into the same school that was rampaged with gunfire, blood, and tears.......

They walked past a long line of supportive community and family members, into hallways and classrooms that can't possibly any longer feel safe...... and sang, and shouted, filled with the courage that they would stomp out intolerance and take back their school.

I can't think of any better form of poetic courage than that. Let's live by thier example.

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HMS White Star
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Sure of course, let's all live surrounded by guard dogs and cops in an area where the First Amendment is a thing of the past, I sure would to live in an area like that. [Every point is true first Colimbine in now patrolled by lots of cops and guard dogs, and Free Speech is no longer allowed because I of this statement ""Sexual, racial and religious slurs or jokes will not be allowed," DeAngelis said. "Profanity and off-color language will not be allowed in the halls of Columbine High School."" Sure that all sounds nice and it is positive and perhaps good, it's doesn't sound like much free speech is happening there, it sound more like, free speech as long as it's PC and what we like.]

BTW I intend no disrespect, Jubilee, I just see the Dark side of all this stuff and need to point it out. Yes the rally was a good thing and what the principal said was important and good. However when the kids are surrounded by so much secruity that the school feels in some ways like a prison, then I get nervous, and point out little things that don't seem right. But I am glad that someone feels that way and I wish I did, but I don't and likely never will.

Works Cited
http://www.apbonline.com/911/1999/08/16/columbine0816pm_01.html

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Kosh
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There is a rumor that schools here will be locked down every day, including doors with emergency release bars, that are designed to open easily in case of fire. I don't think I'd let a kid go to public school under those conditions.

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Jubilee
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The point is not the school, or it's environment.... well, it is, but not THE point.

THE point is that these students have the courage to go back to such a place and continue their education.

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HMS White Star
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Your right the point is the students have the courage to return to there school, but what are they returning to a school or a prison, come on in some schools the only difference now is there are no strip searchs, and that the students don't live there and there isn't much esle different. Courage is great, it was great when the Kosovo Albanians returned to Kosovo after the horrible things the Serbs did to them, however it was terrible when a small group of them started doing the same thing to Serbs. All I am saying is 2 wrongs don't make a right.

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TSN
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"Welcome back to school. Please check your Constitution at the door..."

Sorry. Couldn't help myself... :-)

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Elim Garak
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Courage is the first virtue. Be brave, kids.

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I just saw a report on CNN that swastikas(sp??) had been found painted on bathroom walls at Columine today. Now how do you think this will help the case against tighter security(which I AM against).

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""Sexual, racial and religious slurs or jokes will not be allowed," DeAngelis said. "Profanity and off-color
language will not be allowed in the halls of Columbine High School.""

--Ya know, at my old HS none of that has *ever* been allowed. Thinking that be ok even before the shootings is stupid! That is not free speech!

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Elim Garak
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Just a question... It's okay to allow those things as free speech? Uhhhh...

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Saltah'na
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They blocked the main entrance to the library with a new strip of lockers. I guess that place is too traumatic for anyone to set foot in. Wonder where the new library will be located?

I too don't see anything good about new security. At my high school, all we've got are video cameras, and a couple of cops who patrol the school every day and chat with the students. And that's A'ok with me. It may not be perfect, but it would probably be good enough.

ID tags? Get real. Student security starts with the students themselves.........

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Sol System
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This topic is suitable for flaming, no?

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Jubilee
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It wasn't supposed to be a flame topic... ugh.

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bryce
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Never my intention, if I am the reference.

As the son of a teacher, I know free speech has never been allowed in schools. School Admins. have more power on school property than law enforcement does on the streets.

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HMS White Star
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I know that and I even know that yes you check the Constitution at the door at the school you go to. As my Ex-principal Father Richard L. Mickey said "when you enter the school house you have no rights". But I thought it was funny that students were appauding the fact that they were having what little freedom stripped away and that everyone thought this a good thing, well it isn't. Sorry about that I guess I kind of started it, but feel really strongly about personal rights gurantteed in the Constitution and how easy people are giving them away for "increased Secruity", I don't know if the teachers paid a little more attention then perhaps this problem wouldn't be happening.

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