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Mostly. Ever hear that a bill "died in committee?" Meaning that it was kept in a committee until the time limit for it to be voted on was passed, or it was superceded, or the sponsors just let it drop because it was obvious that the committee was not going to release it for a vote. Many bills die this way (including, fortunately, many of Jesse Helms's). It's like filibustering, but nobody has to talk. You just keep it off the agenda.
I believe that that's the belief expressed, that Bush's appointees are "dying in committee" rather than being either accepted or rejected outright. That they're being stalled, 'discussed' interminably rather than put through to the Senate for a yea or nay vote.
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Maybe we should set it up where the presidential appointees are automatically in, unless SPECIFICALLY blocked? It'd keep people from pulling stunts like this, and force them to explain exactly WHY the judges were being blocked.
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So, if I'm reading the HSJC page right, there are currently 10 Democratic members to 9 Republican.
Ooh, look another patented Omega Logic Leap™! Farquad expresses a belief that may - or may not - be true (and I'm not even sure whether it's his belief that is being expressed); notice how Omeychops immediately leaps onto the bandwagon to demand that a major piece of legislation, one which could have serious implications for the whole three-branches-of-government thing, be instituted to stop THEM, THOSE PEOPLE, from doing it again.
OK, more questions (I gave up trying to figure your government out when I got stuck over Electoral Colleges; I'm trying to catch up): the Senate is basically even right now, correct? What about the House? What is happening with welfare reform? And who's behind it? And what's the prescription drugs Bill about?
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Then you would have the parties blocking the blocking, while a Pres's henchperson got the job... and maybe not for the benefit of the people overall....
So it would actually keep the status quo on politics, and let the Pres appoint away, maybe to the detrement of the people...
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Clarification: It's the opinion expressed, not necessarily mine (Honestly, I don't know enough about the proccess or who's been confirmed and who hasn't and who's stuck in committee to take a stand either way.)
I don't think that that change would help, Omega. Especially if we had a Democratic president instead. *shudder* No, let the system work the way it does, just put more scrutiny on the committee. Sort of a "watching the watchmen" thing.
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Or, get this, the Democrats, those partisan lying scum, could just approve of all of Mr. Bush's judges because "we're at war!!!"
Or, get this part two, you could shut up about the Democrats, those partisan lying scum, because the Republicans, those non-partisan flowers of purity, when in control of the Senate did the same thing, i.e. using Senate procedure to not bring about a vote.
It's called politics. Apparently playing politics is ok and above board for Republicans, those non-partisan flowers of purity, but oh no, don't let the Democrats, those partisan lying scum, oppose any of Mr. Bush's Hard-Right judicial nominations.
It was interesting to hear the Republicans, those non-partisan flowers of purity, say 'what comes around goes around' after Priscilla Owen was rejected by the Judiciary Committee considering Mr. Bush bypassed a more moderate judge to nominate someone with Hard-Right, anti-consumer credentials. But we know, no Democrate, those partisan lying scum, has ever opposed a judge or ever even voted on principle. Republicans, those non-partisan flowers of purity, shun politics at every turn and only vote the way their principles tell them.
Must be tough to be a flower of purity in the Senate.
And get this, Mr. Bush is even out there saying he's going to nominate conservative judges! He doesn't even have the sense to say he's going to nominate the best judges. No, not Mr. Bush. He's going to nominate conservatives and then whine when they get opposed. As a uniter and not a divider, I guess that's the way to get things done.
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quote:Originally posted by Ritten: Nice wording....
Need a mop to clean up the dripping tho....
Yes, he does tend to drool and foam at the mouth a lot.
If he were as fair as he pretends to be, he'd note that I asked if anybody knew if these things were true, and I talked about the accusations that were being made, and reiterated a request for information. I did not make a statement.
Then again, his are the same folks who turn a memorial service into a partisan campaign rally, and ambushed the "enemy" who had just showed up to bid farewell to a respected opponent.
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That's a big brush. Where can I get one like it?
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Funny thing about broad strokes: they're rarely wrong in their entirity. It's almost always a matter of degree. You're saying, "Oh, he said that Democrats did something that they did. It's a generalization, and therefore wrong." Even if it WAS a generalization, it would still be a correct and useful one, because the vast majority of Democrats present did, in fact, do what Rob said they did.
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It also hit home for both parties, since they both do act this way.... It is called politics...
I am sure that the Dems will have a reverse situation to through in your face in due time, and the same arguments will flow in the opposite...
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Yes, and I'm sure we can't call Hitler on his genocide, because I'm sure that in due time he'll have an example of it to throw back in our face.
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