It is a big-time felony to sell long guns (rifles, shotguns) to anyone under eighteen.

Where did these teens get the guns? Did an irresponsible dealer sell them to these kids? Did irresponsible parents give firearms to these (legal) children? Did these kids go out & buy them on the black market?

These guys were into a whole boatload of illegal stuff.If no-one noticed something was going on, they were deaf, dumb, and blind or in deep, dark denial.

--Baloo

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'Those are the headlines. Happy now?'
-Chris Morris.

And, as I stated elsewhere, only one of the weapons thay they used was even legal to own in the first place. The so-called "pistol" they used has been shown to be a "Tech-9", a weapon that was made illegal under the recent (and unenforced) "asault weapons" ban.

Baloo--

Colorado curently has VERY lax gun laws, and it currently isn't illegal to sell a shotgun or rifle to someone as young as 16. I believe a lot of the hubub at the beginning was that the Colorado Senate (or house or whatever) was currently debating laws effecting the purchase of handguns. *wishes he'd pay more attention*

I've been repeatedly sickened on the garbage the media is playing on about this incident. I've seen so many things blamed, from Marylon Manson to DOOM. Obviously weapons laws are an easy target in a situation like this... But in the end I believe you find re-regulation of ANY kind will be fruitless. You can't regulate the way people think. And if a person is intent enough on exacting revenge on someone thats repeatedly mocked them for years, then there will be no stopping them. No matter how many of their toys you take away from them.

It occured to me that this was a hate crime. Most people think of hate crimes as crimes against a minority group of some kind, but that isn't true. Has anyone here ever hated someone REALLY intensly? By nature I'd never hurt anyone (well, in RL *lol*) but when I was in 7th grade this guy who would later go on to be captain of the wrestling team at our school was CONSTANTLY taunting me. One day it got too much to bear and I just exploded. Beat the living crap out of the guy. I've never been that pissed off at anyone, and never really have since. But the point of this story is, if you hate someone enough, you will do anything to them. These guys simply used guns because they were easy to obtain. If they didn't have those, they'd most likely have used bombs (someone actually said Grenades, which I know is bull) or anything else they could get their hands on. Even if they didn't have ANYTHING AT ALL, they'd just gang up eventually and use their bare hands and beat people to death. It would be a riot. But it would still happen.

And according to what I hear lately, they were planning on killing at least 500 people before crashing a hijacked plane into New York. Compared to that 15 people is nothing. We can easily get lost in the sorrow of such a painful situation, but with that kind of eyesight I guarantee you'll get lost pretty quick. I've looked long and hard into the face of death this past month, loosing a friend of mine, an old school teacher, and my aunt... I can tell you it isn't fun. It makes a person not want to get up in the morning.

Call me hard hearted if you want. Unfortunately in situations like these, its all you can do to survive.

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Here's the straight dope (with apologies to Cecil Adams...)

Marilyn Manson Kills Puppies (not).

DOOM: The Harris Levels

--Baloo