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I should add that the UN has had significant successes, only we tend not to notice them. I mean, shouldn't we be the teensiest bit glad that we didn't all get annihilated in 1967 over the godforsaken Sinai desert? Anybody ever heard of a place called Biafra? Aren't we pleased with the fact that the Cypriots didn't exterminate themselves?
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Mr. Bush has made it quite clear that he doesn't care at all if the U.N. goes into Iraq or if it is just the United States. The U.N. is being maneuvered in this situation to provide a justification for King George's War.
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The question is whether or not the UN will follow through when Blix makes his next report and tells them, again, that Iraq is still not cooperating and complying as required under the previous resolutions.
quote: Top U.N. inspectors Hans Blix and Mohamed ElBaradei say Iraq still isn�t fully cooperating or providing evidence to answer outstanding questions about its nuclear, chemical, biological and long-range missile programs. To demonstrate that Iraq is cooperating, Saddam must not only show that he is doing more to answer those questions. He must also comply with Blix�s order to begin destroying all Iraq�s Al Samoud 2 missiles and the engines and components for them by Saturday.
I love that "begin" destroying the missiles order. "Yessir, we began destroying the missiles today. I unscrewed a screw on one of them this morning. By next October, I hope to have unscrewed a second screw."
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Oops. Sorry. I just noticed I double Posted. I got an error on the puter at school and didn't know if it went through. Sorry!
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Of course the UN is still relavent. UNimporntant countries need a public forum to beg for our help amd bask in our benevalence.
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In that case, we might as well dissolve the UN now and get it over with. B)
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No, I mean of course they are relevant now. I mean with the nation building and the non-aggressive, expensive and complicated stuff like putting Iraq back together again.
I mean before, like a few months back, when they were all, "Hey man, are you sure these guys have a bunch of weapons of mass destruction? Because we'd frickin' hate to go in there and not find them and wind up looking like a bunch of jack-asses or something." And the US was all, "No, dude seriously. Trust me. I can't tell you how I know, but I know. They are in there and they are gonna fuck everyone up unless we stop 'em." And the UN was all, "Fuck, man, I don't know. This is some serious shit. I don't think we oughtta just jump the mutherfucker without some proof." And the US was all, "Proof? Ah, fuck you guys. You're a bunch of pussies. Check this shit."... Back then, the UN was totally irrelevant.
But now it's hard. This whole reassembling the country whose infrastructure you totally destroyed thing. And expensive. We're gonna need some UN help on that. Nevermind that we said we'd deal with the consequences. The UN is still totally relevant. Oh, except that the UN is still irrelevant at deciding how the new Iraqi petroleum industry will be set up and by whom. But I mean aside from that, like, the other stuff? Still totally relevant.
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The UN is relevant. It's the US that doesn't care one bit what they say; the only reason for a second reslution was to make the war look good in the eyes of the world. But, alas, even that probably would not make the war look good. The UN has kept some disputes at bay, and others not. It has had it's good times and bad times. I can almost guarantee we would not be having this discussion had Bush not decided to go to war.
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The UN has been immensely successful at... hm...
I'll let you know when I think of something.
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The US, in Iraq, has been immensley successful at...
Restoring order? No. Restoring Democracy? No. Finding WMD? No. Proving Saddam had them? No. Battling insurgents? Nope. Getting the rest of the Muslim world on our side? Nope. Restoring vital services to the Iraqi people? Nope. Killing/Capturing Saddam? No. Getting rid of his regime? Yes. Killing/capturing many regime leaders? Yes.
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But good enough for some.
And I don't see how the UN has any major role to play in the rebuilding of Iraq, what with most of the... services already contracted out to US multinationals before the war even began.
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See, Veers can't think of anything either! So he attacks! Oh, he is so clever!
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