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First of Two
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Yes they were. More, they were a threat to non-troops, ours and others'.

Because Iraq supported several terrorist organizations, including some international groups. Because they trained terrorists at Salman Pak. Because they could easily have equipped said terrorists with any chemical weapons in their possession, or that they would develop, with a minimal chance of detection (and, given the number of people who want to believe that Iraq was disarmed, some good chance of deniability). The US was not prepared to permit that potentiality, when it could be prevented.

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Saltah'na
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The ultra-right wing conservative fat-head Pat Buchanan even stated on television that anti-Iraq war protestors should be charged with treason against the United States governmnet because they gave, as he put it, "aid and comfort to the enemy."

You have got to be joking on this.

I guess there is no distinction between this kind of ultra-right conservative fat-head and the others currently serving office.

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Jay the Obscure
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As I recall, Ann Coulter said something like that. I was going to find if for you but the thought of going through her writing made me ill.

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Saltah'na
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A Clarification: I thought we were talking about Pat Robertson, the Christian lunatic. Guess I got the names mixed up.

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Da_bang80
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Looks like they finally got thiers.

It is a shame that they could not have been captured alive. oh well.

One of the bodygaurds, for Uday I believe, told CNN that the decapitation strike earlier in the year missed horribly. And that Uday and Qusay appeared in public even after the US troops rolled into Baghdad, and were moving to a different house every few days.

How big is Baghdad anyways?

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Sol System
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http://www.cockeyed.com/citysize/baghdad_la.html

http://www.cockeyed.com/citysize/baghdad_ny.html

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Jay the Obscure
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So, what they are saying is that people who live in Los Angeles are terrorists? [Wink]

And for reference, that first map is a pretty small section of Los Angeles.

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Da_bang80
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Thanx guy!

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And the wisdom to hide the bodies of all the people I had to kill today because they pissed me off.

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Lee
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What's actually happening to the ones they've captured, and would the same fate await Saddam's sons (if they'd been taken alive) or Saddam himself (eventually, likewise if taken alive)? Will they all vanish into Guantanamo and never be heard of again? Tried in Iraq? Taken to the Hague for trial?

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Sol System
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I'd imagine it would be most useful, from a purely pragmatic point of view, to give Hussein a showy trial, be it in Iraq or elsewhere. But probably in Iraq, with a U.S. judge(s) and a very carefully selected batch of Iraqi jurors. I doubt he'd see the inside of the Hague, for obvious political reasons. And, really, his value as an intelligence source is probably not worth disappearing him.

But I think it's far more likely that if Hussein is ever found, he'll be killed like his sons. One, U.S. troops are under constant attack there and are not likely to show much restraint should they come under fire. And two, everybody knows he's guilty, right? So why bother with a trial, which would just give him a chance to rally the Iraqi people and maybe even transmit secret coded messages to Al Qaeda. Better a mute martyr than one with a message. Goes the thinking, anyway.

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"transmit secret coded messages to Al Qaeda."

Robert Ludlum: The Return.

Via blinking, surely.

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