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According to Mr. Rumsfeld, I'd have to say, maybe.
quote:Rumsfeld Strikes Back at Critics of U.S. Effort on Terror
HANNON, Ireland, Sept. 8 � With costs and casualties rising in the war on terrorism, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld struck back today at the administration's widening circle of critics, saying they were complicating an already difficult task.
Mr. Rumsfeld did not mention any of the domestic critics by name. But he suggested that those who have been critical of the administration's handling of the war in Iraq and its aftermath might be encouraging American foes to believe that the United States might one day walk away from the effort, as it has in past conflicts.
"We know for a fact that terrorists studied Somalia, and they studied instances that the United States was dealt a blow and tucked in, and persuaded themselves that they could in fact cause us to acquiesce in whatever it is they wanted to do," Mr. Rumsfeld said.
"The United States is not going to do that; President Bush is not going to do that," he said.
But, he went on: "To the extent that terrorists are given reason to believe he might, or, if he is not going to, that the opponents might prevail in some way, and they take heart in that, and that leads to more money going into these activities, or that leads to more recruits, or that leads to more encouragement, or that leads to more staying power, obviously that does make our task more difficult."
Similar points were made by President Bush in his address to the nation on Sunday night in regard to Somalia and an attack on a Marine Corps barracks in Beirut, Lebanon, in 1983. Mr. Bush said that terrorists had asserted "that that if you inflict harm on Americans, we will run from a challenge," adding, "In this, they are mistaken."
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He had not previously suggested that the administration's critics might unwittingly be aiding the terrorist cause. He made that point in response to a question about criticism from Democratic presidential candidates and others, which Mr. Rumsfeld described as the "hits" that the administration was taking over issues related to costs and casualties, and whether the United States had enough troops in Iraq.
"There should be a debate and discussion on these things," he said. "We can live with that. We can live with a healthy debate as long as it is as elevated as possible, and as civil as possible."
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Cartman
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quote:Any other point of view supports terrorism.Not fighting terrorism supports terrorism.Not recognizing the effects of terrorism supports terrorism.
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See how much more fun it is when you find a purpose. Having your social order shook up by totaly illogical strikes from out of no where by someone whose attitude makes no sense, Has actually made you come together. Your society has been changed. For the better. Or not.
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So who are you really?
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Mountain Man
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"Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men" The shadow doooooo
[ September 09, 2003, 10:40 AM: Message edited by: Mountain Man ]
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You've crippled people for life, yet you spout this holier than thou bullshit about violence?
There's a word for that kind of attitude:
HYPOCRITICAL
You might want to look it up.
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Mountain Man
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Takes one to know one. Na Na Na. Besides who knows whether any thing is real in cyberspace. Still playing. See how your attitude towards those who do violence has suddenly changed. Paranoia strikes deep.Bye now remember this is your play time so don't let any one disturb your train of thought.
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Oh, my attitude towards those who do violence hasn't changed. Just my attitude towards you, now that you've revealed your true colors as a violent, manipulative, post-editing (come down with a slight case of paranoia yourself, perhaps?) piece of shit.
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Mountain Man
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Come now does no one respect your authority Cartman Stooping to vulgarity How crude. Good thing I'm a man of peace. Rather than some one who Highjacks airliners and murders people in the name of religion when its always been politcal. And most bad boys that Ive met can't fight their way out of a paper bag. "Any fight between grown men that lasts more than eight seconds is a sporting event."
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Do men of peace cripple other people for life?
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Charles Capps
We appreciate your concern. It is noted and stupid.
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That will be quite enough of that.
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Mountain Man
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Ask some religious scholar. How should I know I'm an artficial intelligence that is not yet self aware. Random posting is part of the program."ignore the man behind the curtain".Ps sorry about that charley our post crossed. You run a pretty good place here so I'll quit bugging these boys. Kind of hard to be objective so close to the 911.
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The other half of the time, I end up expecting him to turn out to be Gene Ray. Certainly, his sentence structure is similar.
"You were educated stupid! Time Cube is for all, all is for one! Athos knew!"
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Ignoring the more, ah, curious posts in this thread...
What Rummy appears to be saying is that if you oppose the current administration you are on the side of the terrorists. Hm. Not entirely in keeping with the concept of free speech now, is it?
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