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I wonder if you would have made the same responce to French resistance fighters durin WWII? They are fighting to remove invaders for the same reason the French resistance attacked the Germans who were occupying their country.
Removing German troops from France would have done France a world of good, because German troops sucked. We don't, as a general rule. We're rebuilding Iraq, fixing the damage we caused, and we're gonna leave. Germany was on a mission of annexation.
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quote: Removing German troops from France would have done France a world of good, because German troops sucked. We don't, as a general rule. We're rebuilding Iraq, fixing the damage we caused, and we're gonna leave. Germany was on a mission of annexation.
Would you think that of an occupying force? Germany rebuilt infratructure after occupying France, but only for their own good, why would some Iraqi's think otherwise? These people are also seeing their people being taken away to prisons that no-one has access to other than the ocuppying forces. These people are seeing houses broken into in the middle of the night by the occupying forces. They also see their religious leaders being arrested by the occupying forces. So according to these people the occupying forces suck. You are looking at this from the occupying forces point of view, I'm sure people in Germany thought the same way you do. We are helping these people, while the troops on the ground are shooting into crowds of people, killing young children as they sleep on rooftops. Would you stand for that if occupying forces were were dragging off christian religious leaders in the US, if it was occupied? Would you stand for that if children were being killed in the US if it was occupied? How are they to know that the US is not just annexing Iraq, you have already set up a puppet government, that just in the last weeks were told that they must accept Turkish troops, dispite what the puppet government said. They are also seeing jobs, like training the police force go to Jordan, instead of it being done by Iraqis. They are seeing contracts being given out without any bidding process, going to American firms. Would you see this as working to help the Iraqis, if you were one of them? To understand the Iraqi resistance you must look at it from their perspective and not from the perspective of the occupying force. And lastly how do they know you are going to leave, some of your own generals have said you will probably be there for 10 years or more.
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I hope that was meant in some way as a joke, because Grocka has made some very valuable points.
I agree with him completely.
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quote:Originally posted by Omega: German troops sucked. We don't, as a general rule.
The German troops didn't do anything an sucky as shooting down their allies helicopters, or bombing their own convoys, did they?
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Liam, they didn't have allies that they fought with along the same lines as the US, Italy wasn't all that good or large....
How long did we have troops in Germany, we still do, but not in the numbers we once had.... almost 50 years now since WWII ended.
Before you say, but we were there to keep Russia in check, because the same thing can happen with keeping Iran, Syria, and the rest of the middle east 'in check'.
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No, but the Wehrmacht was competant. Unlike the US armed forces. Also the Germans did fight alongside the Italians on many occasions and in WWI alongside Austro-Hungarian forces. Who really did suck.
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