quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: ...Think of it: a split party ticket for the first term in....years.
Who know[s] when the last time was?
1797-1801 President - John Adams (Federalist) Vice President - Thomas Jefferson (Democratic Republican)
I doubt the McCain thing will happen. Clark maybe, but not McCain.
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Wasn't Adams/Jefferson during the period when, as mentioned before, the runner-up in the presidential election became the VP?
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Jason posted his second while I was looking for information on his first.
That may well be the case, but I'd have to look it up to confirm it.
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Now that I think about it, wasn't that the message VP Ben Kingsley tried to get through in "Dave"? His being sent to Africa, where he couldn't disrupt the EvilPres' and Frank Langella's plans?
Totally Obscure Jay said: "maybe we should choose our president by deciding which candidate we would prefer to eat barbecue with."
That has nothing to do with politics. Burgers and national security has nothing in common.
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If life were anything like the movie Dave, I'd feel really good about voting.
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"Then again, maybe we should choose our president by deciding which candidate we would prefer to eat barbecue with."
We already do. Because of idiots' coming up with polls like that.
"More voters also would trust Bush, 46-41, to run the family business. But voters were evenly split on whether they would rather have Kerry or Bush teach their children."
I think that that's indisputable proof that the people answering the poll questions were either lying, or utterly mentally imcompetent in every way.
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I don't trust anyone who thinks that 87 people is a good number for a poll.
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That's still a pretty small poll: Where was this poll held nayway? The pollsters could have been asking the residents of a large trailer park for all we know.
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Well, like we say where I come from, "There's nayway if you're a naysay!".
Seriously, what was wrong with the system the first couple of presidents had, being both Democrat and Republican in one body?! I looked at americanpresidents.org and there were a lot of them hybrids for many years. Now I don't think the presidents of those days were mutants carrying a big democrat manbaby in their gut, like in the Academy Award-nominated "Total Recall", so it must've worked like a nice marriage of views, no?
Couldn't you sort of go back to that, mend the fence, so to speak?
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No: the VP position as a title and a paycheck back then with zero responsibilities. It was a joke and everyone knew it.
Today the VP's job is much more complex and involves issuing billion dollar contracts to companies he used to run.
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No, I meant that some presidents have had the affiliation "Democratic Republican" or "Republican Democrat", why was that merger possible in the 1700's/1800's and why is it not today?
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I believe "Democratic Republican" was the name of the party, wasn't it?
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Remember, the parties do change once in a while. I think the two big parties back in the day were the Whigs and the Federalists. Or maybe the D-R and the Feds? Hmm...IIRC, it was the Civil War that thrust the Republicans into serious power.
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quote: No, I meant that some presidents have had the affiliation "Democratic Republican" or "Republican Democrat", why was that merger possible in the 1700's/1800's and why is it not today?
Omega's right, it wasn't a merger. The Democratic Republicans were one early party, and the Whigs and Federalists were others. Then this third-party spoiler named Lincoln came along and upset everything (the Federalists were extinct at that point, IIRC). I'm not sure when the Democratic Republicans came to be known as just Democrats, but I think Lincoln's party was already known as (just) Republicans when he was elected.