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bX
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I don't know that the US would presently be defined as a fascist state, but we certainly seem to be heading that direction. This was scary:

It's called: "do you disagree?"

Are you now or have you ever been?

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TSN
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Well, I would have to disgree with the assertion that the government controls the media. They don't. The media willingly (and, in some cases, more than happily) cater to the desires of the government. But the government doesn't actually forcibly control them.

How long that will last, though, is anyone's guess. The government already actively manipulates the media, after all...

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Jason Abbadon
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I would not say the military is in charge /holds dominance either.

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Wow. That's scary. 13 out of 14. It's a wonder how the world's symbol for freedom can become the complete antithesis in such a short period.

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Kazeite
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What? It's more like 3-4 out of 14...

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Bones McCoy
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No, in my opinion, it's all true, except for the media being controlled by the state. Well, from an outsider's perspective, that is.

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Marauth
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The comment about the military was not that they hold power or dominance, but rather that they are given disproportionate funds even in times of domestic crisis, which does fit at the moment.

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Jason Abbadon
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I cant agree: it's a war (declared or otherwise)- of course the military has more funding.

A greater indicator that things are going downhill would be prisoners held without trial for indefinite sentences and some forms of torture being considered acceptable.

All of which is a product of Bush's administration.

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Curry Monster
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quote:
Originally posted by Bones McCoy:
It's a wonder how the world's symbol for freedom can become the complete antithesis in such a short period.

Wow. Is that really how you see yourselves?
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The Ginger Beacon
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I am a carrot, but I'm also not American. Here's the original article:
Fascism Anyone?

If you read it, it gives a better perspective due to the lack of flags etc in the background. Still, it is hard not to draw parellels with the US government, not the country.

Of course, I reckon Tony Blair has (not so) secret aspirations to put on a black uniform and knee high boots... [Wink]

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Jason Abbadon
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I'll be the first to speak of BUsh's excesses but it's still the government the majority voted for.


Meanwhile the EU leadership seems hellbent on pushing through it's (rather unpopular) constitution.

Mabye not fascist exactly, but definitely not in touch with what the people want either.

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Cartman
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Well, except, what the majority wants (or doesn't want) does not determine wether a state meets the criteria for fascism.
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TSN
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"...it's still the government the majority voted for."

Well, the majority of those who actually voted. And even that can be disputed.

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Sol System
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I would argue that, barring those actively kept away from the polls, the desires of people who don't vote are irrelevant. (Well, not totally. Voting isn't the only way, perhaps not even the most important way, to participate in the general business of making culture; you could say that someone who doesn't vote can influence, perhaps profoundly influence, someone who does. For instance, the effect having children can have on one's general outlook on life. But I'm going to stick with my gross oversimplification on account of it containing a truth, even if it does not fully describe it.)
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