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Mucus
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On a slightly tangential line of thought, the United States IS the only country that has ever used not just one, but TWO atomic bombs on another.
Maybe your new missile defense should point inward to protect the rest of the world from yourselves
Just saying...

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Ignorant, arrogant, and armed to the teeth.....
We'ins is happy here in da Ewe-Knighted Staits.....

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The Russian system are actually quite effective, but it use a nuclear detonation to "kill" warheads in proximity, so there you go...

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And therefore iradiates the atmosphere of the planet even more. It's not about stopping nukes when they're launched, it's preventing their launch. If the US just blocks all incoming missiles and the world is irradiated, how long do they think they're gonna live?

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As I haven't taken physics yet and my knowledge seems to be sorely limited, I have a question.

If you blow up a nuclear warhead en route, does the bomb itself actually go off, or do the reactant materials simply get pulverized and blown all over the place?

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Mucus
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Actually, from my admittedly sketchy knowledge. Blowing up a nuclear missile en-route shouldn't be that bad (relatively). All you're doing is scattering the radioactive material across the landscape, but I'm pretty sure that unless you were really "unlucky" you probably wouldn't set off the explosive charges...just right... that push the two halfs of the mass together and having the thing go nuclear.
(Right? Some help here?)
But if you just blew up the missile with another nuclear missile, its a moot point, thats why the "new" ideas use lasers and kinetic tech.

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Nah, it's theoretically impossible to set off a nuclear bomb accidently. Now admittedly, the nuclear material scattering over the landscape wouldn't be all that good, but it'd be better than the complete destruction of L.A. 'Course, that'd be a close call. Wouldn't we all be better off without Rosie O'Donnel?

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and Opera

To "modify" a famous quote to fit the philosophy of Opera:

"If you put foods on the table, she will come!"

bahahahaha

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Yeah, or without Star Trek, hmmm?

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Your point is well taken.

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*shrug* It would be worth it.
Besides, they've finished filming Voyager.
They could film Series 5 and ST X somewhere else...

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I'm not so sure about an anti-missle defence. There is a larger chance of terrorists ramming a nuclear weapon up our asses by puting it in a boat and sailing it into New York harbor or something like that. Let's face it! Should we come under attack, I'd be willing to bet money on the fact the these weapons of mass desruction would be delivered via more discrete methods. As a matter of fact, I'm not so sure of the probibility of anyone launching ICBMs against us. The republicans said a missle defence system would protect us from an "accedental launch," but the odds of that happening are GIGANTIC! They even compared an accedental launch of an ICBM to the Kursk, and Greenville submarine accedents. Excuse me, but lauching nuclear missles by accedent and hitting a fishing vessel by accedent are two different things. Who would nuke us though? Other than psycho terrorists. China is more interested in taking control of territories and territory won't be any good to them if it's glowing in the dark. Russia can't doesn't have the cash to go to war with us, and India and Pakistan are more interested in nukeing each other. I don't know. Maybe a missle defence system really is something we need, but I'm not totally convinced we do need it

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Gurgeh said:
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I think they should have continued with the disarmament, it could only have meant a better future for everyone. At the same time, though, when countries like China, India, and Pakistan start testing nuclear bombs I can see where Bush is coming from, even if I disagree.

Now Gurgy old chap, I guess that nobody but uncle sam has the right to nukes huh? Also you seem to be under the impression that nukes are new to these nations. Each one of them has had nuclear weapons for at least 25 years. But yes, they're obiviously evil.

On a side note how can you place a democratic nation like India in the same group an dictatorships like China & Pakistan? Please explain...

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The Talented Mr. Gurgeh
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First mentioned that the USA were continuing with the Start II treaty so that's something, at least.

Daryus: My point was not that the US is the only country allowed to have nukes, but that I could understand Bush's concern. And India IS a major concern. They may not be a dictatorship, but we all saw the aggressive behaviour between India and Pakistan last summer. Democracy or no, they're still dangerous.

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India and Pakistan have NOT had nuclear weaponry for 25 years!

And even if it's only each other that they succeed in nuking, then that'll be a good proportion of the world's population fucked, from the dead millions in Pakistan and India, and the irradiated survivors there, to the Chinese, Bangladeshis, etc. that have a border with either of these two. Fallout's a bitch, kids. Stay in school.

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