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Well. More confederate battle flag issues and more weak-minded dumbasses who are so willing to let an insignifcant emblem drive them to violence and hate.


*sigh* So the dance continues.....

Houston - Another student fell victim in April to the escalating campaign for the ethnic cleansing of Dixie. Ryan Zane Oleichi, a 13-year-old student at Labay Middle School outside of Houston, Texas, required hospitalization for the treatment of injuries he received when he was viciously assaulted as he was leaving school. The two perpetrators, a Black and an Hispanic classmate objected to a book that Ryan was carrying home because it had a picture of the Confederate battle flag on the cover. Ryan got the book from the school library for a report that he was doing on Gen. Robert E. Lee.

This outrage is the direct and proximate result of a hostile learning environment created by the administration of the Labay Middle School. Particularly culpable is the Assistant Principal, Ms. Cheryl Morrison.

Back on 19 February, which was a Monday, Ryan's mother Melinda Hill was called to the school. Ms. Morrison met with Ryan's mom to tell her that Ryan was to start 3 days detention as punishment for his wearing of a Confederate flag patch on his shirt. The offending emblem measured all of one inch by one and one-half inches. Overruling the fact that the rulebook only calls for a one-day penalty for infractions of the school dress code, Ryan was to be made an example. You see, Ms. Morrison told Mrs. Hill, "We must make an example of Ryan. He is a racist."

Mrs. Hill was confused by this turn of events. Ryan had worn this shirt several times before without incident. He is proud to wear the Confederate flag because of his love for his Southern Confederate heritage. He is a good student with good grades. He is not a troublemaker nor is he a racist. In fact, he is half Lebanese. Ms. Morrison would only say that an "extreme example" must be made. Ryan would be given three days detention and then forced to apologize publicly to all the Black students for being a "racist."

Thus the Assistant Principal's auto-da-fe set in motion the wheels of persecution that lead to Ryan's beating. Students began verbally abusing Ryan and harassing him. On 20 April events began to escalate. A student, Christina Nelson, walked up and slapped Ryan's face. She then threatened to sic her "posse" on him. "Posse" is generally understood to be a slang term among Blacks that means "a gang."

Then on 26 April, which is Confederate Memorial Day in Texas, Ryan was working on his book report on Confederate General Robert E. Lee in his first period class. He was looking at the book that he had checked out from the school library. A classmate of his, a Black student named Andrew Foster asked, "What's that?" Ryan replied, "It's a book." Andrew then asked, "Why do you have that flag on it?" Ryan responded, "It's the only one in the school library."

At this point an Hispanic student, Leonardo Suarez chimed in, "You racist . . . you racist! I'm gonna kick your a__! I don't know when, maybe today, maybe tomorrow, but I'm gonna kick your a__!"

When leaving the classroom, the Black student, Foster, tripped Ryan then slammed him against the lockers and issued his own threat to kick Ryan's a__. They made good on their threats as soon as school was over. In a sickening display of how diversity is our strength, this multi-ethnic duo caught Ryan outside the school fence. Foster got to Ryan first and began punching him in the face and stomach until Ryan hit the ground. Foster then hollered for Suarez to join him. Foster shouted, "Hey Leonardo, Ryan doesn't like Mexicans, he wants you to go back to Mexico." Suarez ran up and with his steel toed boots and started kicking Ryan in the head as Ryan lay on the ground. Suarez continued "kicking his a__" as he had threatened to do until Ryan lay unconscious at their feet.

At no time did Ryan fight back even though he holds a black belt in Tae Kwon Do. Even at the tender age of thirteen, Ryan understands the political landscape of the Political Correctness Empire. He knew that if he were to do anything against this pair he would be painted as the aggressor. Don't forget, he now bore the scarlet "R". He was a racist according to the judgment of an assistant principal and by virtue of his own coerced confession and apology. It was open season. He was to be made an example.

Unfortunately, even his refusal to fight back did not help his cause. The school, when it learned of the "incident", did nothing. The excuse that they used for their do-nothing policy was that the "incident" had occurred out side of the school grounds. In spite of witnesses they declared it was "mutual combat," because Ryan had the audacity to put his hands up to protect his face. The District Attorney was contacted and he has refused to file charges. So far nothing has been done and apparently no official or agency will do anything to bring some justice to this situation.

Ryan subsequently spent three days in the hospital, was treated and released to convalesce at home. When Ryan returned to school he received more verbal abuse and death threats. A particularly odious harpy, a student by the name of Carrie Neumann, made a small career out of shouting loud insults at Ryan every day. She issued veiled threats saying that she was "connected." She sent a package to Ryan's home that his mother is afraid to pick up. This entire outrageous experience is causing a great deal of strain on this single mom and her son. Until they contacted the SLRC, no one that they called would dare lift a finger to help them.

No amount of pleading or protest by Ryan's mother could get the school or district officials to intervene on Ryan's behalf. Assistant Principal Morrison made good on her promise to make an "extreme example" out of Ryan.

What must it be like to be thirteen and to be thrown to these wolves? Ryan learned that Suarez was saying that he was, "not satisfied and won't be until Ryan is dead." One week after he returned to school his mother withdrew him and she will school him at home.


Houston Texas: Heritage Violation Follow Up


By J.J. Johnson 06.05.01
SierraTimes.com [email protected]

Sierra Times has received a number of e-mails inquiring about the student that was viciously beaten for a Confederate Flag on a school library book. This story was picked up by many other news outfits after it was published on Sierra Times.

Many of the feedbacks here were questions about where to send contributions to help out the family or his legal defense. We will answer those questions but first, we need to address another major concern based on much of the correspondence to Sierra Times. Yes, we did follow up on the story as per reader demand.

There were many letters on the same subject Here's one example:

"I was intrigued by this article: http://www.sierratimes.com/archive/files/jun/02/arnp060201.htm and I'd like to learn more about it. I did several web searches and was not able to find any other links regarding this story. Can you refer me to another source?"

We lost count of how many messages we received asking similar questions. It seems that since folks can't find this story anywhere else, they can't get worked up about it, and Sierra Times should (we guess) quote some newswire or other news source just to make folks believe this actually happened. This is the point where we stop being nice...

Why not ask the Dallas Morning News for "their" sources? How about the Associated Press? How about CNN? Why not ask the Houston Chronicles why they DIDN'T cover the story in the first place?? C'mon - you think with Texas just passing some of the worst 'thought crime' (a.k.a hate crime) legislation in the country, someone might have contacted the local media about this story?

Ladies and Gentlemen, for all intents and purposes - we were the source for the story. Dr. Neill H. Payne wrote it. We just published it. The fact that some of you couldn't find the story anywhere else doesn't mean it didn't happen. Like on the left, when their partisan organizations send out a press release, those fish wraps around the country you read everyday think it's gospel (even though is makes you puke). The same happened here. The Oleichi family is being represented by the Southern Legal Resource Center. Don't blame us if others won't publish non left-wing press releases.

For you folks in Southern Texas who first heard about it all on the Chris Baker Show - (KPRC - AM 950) you heard the left call in making allegations that the victim in the case was a "racist"; hence the beating was justifiable.

Brown shirts on brown skin - I guess.

The attorney handling the matter, Kirk Lyons, was contacted by Sierra Times and will be contacting KPRC, and due to the outrage from the "Official Talk Show of Houston", probably a few more local media affiliates as well. This story now has Houston's attention. But Let's give credit where credit is due.

Not Sierra Times - not even Lyons of the Southern Legal Resource Center - YOU did this folks. Real Americans who choose not to sit on their 'conservatism', speak out, and spread the word. Real Americans who believe there is more to life than the Associated Press. Sierra Times.com is your news service - merely a vehicle to provide news and information that obviously isn't getting out elsewhere. Our best reporters are our readers. There may be thousands of similar stories out there. And today, there is at least one news service willing to take it on.

To put it bluntly folks: It pains the media and other leftists to admin that we're a news service just like them. Should Real American media get that from it's own readers as well? Have we been psychologically beaten that bad that we have to hear from a news source we have no faith in before we believe it?

When our founding fathers wrote the First Amendment, They didn't have the USA Today, and the New York Times in mind. It was We the People - that Fourth Branch of Government given the duty to keep that suspicious eye on government officials.

Welcome to the Digital Revolution, America - where Fabian Socialism may govern the news rooms, and kings and queens controlled information for centuries. That empire is crumbling, one mouse click at a time.

It's something many in the Second Amendment crowd forget - The First Amendment is a First Strike Weapon. That's why they wrote it first.

Carry on,
J.J. Johnson

Contact info for the Ryan Zane Oleichi Case:

Southern Legal Resource Center P.O. Box 1235 Black Mountain, North Carolina 28711. 828-669-5189

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Woah.

That is just so awful.

I can't say that my faith in humanity as dropped, exactly, but certainly my faith and respect for certain individuals.

My friend actually attended Labay Middle School. I've been to the neighborhood, and I know that it is not a very... well, it's not a place that is usually subject to that kind of occurrence.

What happened is just another example of how misunderstandings (and unwillingness to listen to others) can lead to violence. While the incident would be considered awful if the persons involved were of any age, I think it is even worse that they were actually quite young. (Approximately 7th graders, I believe.) And no one is born with hate; they have to learn it. It seems to me that several persons could be at fault (namely the parents and especially the administrator), but of course, that does not remove the majority of the blame from the agressors. (If anything, by beating up the alleged racist, they did nothing but prove that they are no better. In fact, they are worse, because even if the student was a racist, he never did anything to them.)

It's hard to retain hope for our society when events like this occur so often. (Even harder when they hit so close to home...)

� TrekkiEternal

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The reporting is very opinionated and favorable to the victim. I would like to see the report, if true, written by a less subjective author.

I do think the author and his publisher need to soften their anti-Democrat, anti-liberal, anti-media approach.


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"The tyrant's heel is on thy shore, Maryland, my Maryland!"
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SLRC...isn't that Morris what's-his-name's place? They're fairly, um, "left-wing"...or at least they've been painted as such in the past...along with the ACLU....

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quote:
favorable to the victim

yes, by all means let's instead bias ourselves in favor of idiots and criminals!

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I do think the author and his publisher need to soften their anti-Democrat, anti-liberal, anti-media approach.

Maybe... but can you show me a single thing that they said that wasn't true?

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Would have been nice to hear the other side of the story.

On the other hand, the Confederate flag, and all variations of it, are nothing more than a symbol of a horrible period in American history. It represents a legacy of treason and slave owners. Hey, if you want to associate yourself with treason and slave owners, be my guest, wear it, fly the flag, whatever you want to. You've got that right to do that -- it's called the First Ammendment.

But you're still identifying yourself with slave-owners and traitors. No thanks.

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Ah, to be fair...anytime anyone makes a ref to George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, James Madison, James Monroe, or any of the others, they're associateing themselves with "slaveowners & traitors."

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I'm glad we all trust the propaganda provided to us by Emperor Uncle Sam. I'll just defer to Maryland's state song, quoted above.

By the 1860's, slavery was well on its way to extinction, with the advent of modern industrial methods and the popularity of abolitionist movements. The southern states seceded not because of slavery, but because of other economic factors (train tracks leading everywhere but the south, national reliance on foreign agriculture, etc.). In short, the Confederacy was formed because the parties involved believed that the central government was not representing their economic interests, in the same manner that the American colonies seceded from Britain barely a century before.


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... And that's why THE biggest issue in Congress was whether states were going to be admitted as free states or slave states. And why South Carolina threatened to secede in 1850 if the Western territories weren't divided to their liking. Railroads and agricultural dependence.

Yeah, I'll buy that.

SC seceded because they feared that the new president was going to use Federal authority to abolish slavery.

Revisionist.

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Would have been nice to hear the other side of the story.

You DID. In the resounding and utter SILENCE of the 'mainstream' media before the 'paranoid conservatives' brought the story to light.

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Proctor: "All right, here's your last question. What was the cause of the Civil War?"
Apu: "Actually, there were numerous causes. Aside from the obvious schism between the abolitionists and the anti-abolitionists, there were economic factors, both domestic and inter--"
Proctor: "Wait, wait... just say slavery."
Apu: "Slavery it is, sir."

I should also note that, as Shik alluded to above, the US relied on slavery for its economic infrastructure since its inception, as had many of history's most powerful nations. It wasn't until the Civil War that it had declined as an institution enough to make a convenient scapegoat for the United Empire of America to use in continuing to justify its existence.

Why do you think slavery existed in the first place? Because all those evil southerners, who happened to oppose Emperor Lincoln (the tyrant alluded to in the Maryland state song!), hated black people? It didn't matter who the slaves were; their monoracial composition was just an unfortunate result of historical factors. Ultimately, slaves were a component of the southern economy, a component that was soon to be eliminated by social and technological factors.

Again, the true reason the Confederacy is so extremely villified is that the notion that such a large group wouldn't want to be part of the US is intolerable to existing national dogma.

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The fact of the matter is that the Confederate flag has been adopted as a symbol for racist groups. Certainly, that's not all the CSA stood for, but still... If someone went around wearing a black, diagonal, clockwise swastika in a white circle, surrounded by red, but claimed to be not racist, but just proud of their National Socialist heritage, that's fine. They're welcome to it. But I won't have any sympathy for them if a bunch of Jews beat the crap out of them.

That said, I don't agree that violence was warranted. The people who did it should be punished. But, the "victim" shouldn't be compensated, in my opinion. It was his own fault.


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The anti-slavery movement in the United States actually preceeded its founding. As has been mentioned before, anti-slavery clauses were in both the Declaration and the Constitution, but were removed because of the Southern states' objections.

So it's not as if the issue just "suddenly" cropped up as a convenient excuse for the Civil War. It had existed for over a century, with the squabbles in 1820 and 1850 being only the high points.

Unfortunately, the South liked the status quo very much and was reluctant to seek other means of supporting their economy, (the fact that the thought of freeing the blacks scared them very much notwithstanding) and to avoid conflict, the North just kept on appeasing them, until the pot finally boiled over.

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I've got a tie I wear to work. It's got flags on it.

It's got the flag of China. Do I support the Chinese government?

It's got the flag of Canada. Does that make me um... a hockey player?

It's got the flag of the UK. Do I eat tea and crumpets?

It's got the flag of France. Am I rude and pushy and eat snails?

It's got a LOT of flags, and the US one isn't drawn right. Am I a globalist UN US-hater?

NO.

I've got a tie with flags on it, that's all. My girlfriend got it for me for christmas. The proceeds go to the "Save the Children" charity.

A symbol is what you make of it, whether it's a Black Madonna or a 'Piss Christ' (Mapplethorpe.)

The kid wore ONE TINY (an inch ain't big) symbol on a shirt. Big frickin' DEAL. He couldn't HELP what flag was on the book cover. You aren't likely to see any OTHER symbol on a book about Robert E. Lee.

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Just for further clarification, the flag in question is not "really" the Confederate flag.

The original Confederate flag, the "Stars & Bars" had a canton of blue in the upper left containing a rign of 7 (later 13) stars. This was in conjuction with 3 stripes in the order of red-white-red.

The Army of Northern Virginia under the command of Robert E. Lee used as its regimental flag the popular design seen today (& on the "General Lee"), except that it was square instead of rectangular & had a white border surrounding it. This was quickly adopted as a general-use battle flag in 1861 & came to be known as the "Southern Cross" or the "Flag of the South."

In 1863, the Southern Cross was placed in the canton of a white flag to create a new national flag, the "Stainless Banner." In 1865, a vertical red stip was added to this design.

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