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And one of the committees reccomendations was "Give us lots more money so we can study this more."
You know, back in the 1940's-70's, when industry was at its height and emissions checks were nonexistent, global temperatures actually DECLINED enough that these same alarmists were yammering about the start of a new ice age.
I've seen the computer models, and they're notoriously simplistic and unreliable. For one, they don't take into consideration certain obvious things like heat-shedding through storms, cloud cover, etc. For another, if you run them BACKWARDS from the 'hot' future, you don't get what we have now, which is a sure sign of flawed assumptions.
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"For another, if you run them BACKWARDS from the 'hot' future, you don't get what we have now, which is a sure sign of flawed assumptions."
Because, as we all know, in science, every theory and formula can be reversed, and the opposite happens.
First, have you ever frozen toast? Notice it's complete inability to convert into bread?
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Toasting bread is a chemical reaction, and thus can not be undone. A relatively minor change in temperature is a totally different concept.
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I don't know what kind of grass this guy's on.
Green house polutants does not just traveled all the way up there in just a day or something. The process actually takes a long, long time.
The "green house" polution we're talking now are actually caused by polutants emitted in the 60s and early 70s, which is definately not the peak of industrial or household air polution.
Just wait until the polutants from the 80s and early 90s starts to kick in, then tell me about non-sense such as "temperature gonna level out" or "temperature gonna drop".
It is stupid idiot like this guy that makes me laugh because he's a moron, and make me sad because he's writing articles and being published on internet.
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Oh yeah, and I suppose this guy are gonna say that the big gaping holes on both artic and antarctic was not our wrong doing by poluting the air, it's just a natural occuring event.
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However, your statements about the 80's and 90's being the worst-polluted decades (at least in terms of the US) are unsupported by ANY evidence, and contradicted by the legislative and phisical evidence, not to mention that of our very eyes.
Perhaps you're just too young. I REMEMBER when they were talking about the 'new ice age' several years back.
They've been studying the weather in detail for a TINY fraction of human history. The extent to which things have been theorized here is similar to that of talking to a guy for five minutes while he's thirteen, and using that to extrapolate where he'll be and what he'll be doing when he's sixty.
In other words, BOLLOCKS.
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This should put the environmentalist wacko agenda back a step. It's a summary w/ images of carbon monoxide levels over the past year. Measuring carbon monoxide is a good indicator of carbon dioxide produced from fossil fuel burning. Notice, in the two pictures, The US is near green at both times. However, the largest amounds of CO produced are above South America, Africa, and China.
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Is there some reason they can't just measure the CO2 emissions? Besides, I thought CO oxidised to CO2 extremely quickly when in normal air.
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And if you notice the dates with the two images, you also see that the emissions from the northern hemisphere migrated to the southern hemisphere during the six month interval between the time the scans were done.
And if you also look closely, the biggest emitters of carbon monoxide are the world's oceans.
And if you look closely still, it appears that the City of Houston emits less carbon monoxide than most of the United States.
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I heard something this morning that gave me pause...
Just out of curiosity, does anybody ELSE here know how many European countries (you know, those guys who are bitching about the US not having done it) HAVE ratified the Kyoto Accord?
France? No. Germany? No. Spain? No. UK? No.
Romania? Yep, that's the one. Ro-frickin' mania, industrial powerhouse. The one with the steel mills out of Dante's "Inferno."
All these people always deriding the US's 'imperialist interference'... but when it comes right down to it, they want us to 'lead' them into EVERYTHING.
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There's a difference between "We're gonna ratify it once the legislative and administrative machinery clicks into place and we've got some free time in our national parliaments to get it through" (Canada, Australia and the European Union) and "The Kyoto Protocol is stupid and will adversely affect our economy (and *cough* the oil lobby's profits) and therefore we're not gonna ratify it nosiree" (Bush).
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