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Kyoto treaty was created using very bad science. Most of the scientists attending have since said so-- But they served their purpose, we don't need to listen to them any more.
Siggy- Download the movie... It'll show that most of the CO is produced in China, South America, and China, and it migrates out into the ocean.
Liam, CO doesn't oxize very quickly without the presence of a catalyst. CO can be burned, actually, to oxidize it further.
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Jeff, I tried to download the movie. However, everytime I did McAfee threw a warning at me that said the file had a virus in it.
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quote:Kyoto treaty was created using very bad science. Most of the scientists attending have since said so-- But they served their purpose, we don't need to listen to them any more.
(--)Ridiculous assumption? Check.
(--)Outrageous claim made with no support? Check.
(--)Statement absolutely devoid of common sense? Check.
(------)Mindless opinions you support only because the right wing does without any independent thought whatsover? Check.
Congratulations, Jeff. You have successfully put together an Omegapost�.
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And from the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change itself...
quote:"None of the studies cited above has shown clear evidence that we can attribute the observed [climate] changes to the specific cause of increases in greenhouse gases."
"No study to date has positively attributed all or part [of the climate change observed to date] to anthropogenic [man-made] causes."
"Any claims of positive detection of significant climate change are likely to remain controversial until uncertainties in the total natural variability of the climate system are reduced."
As a result of such manipulation of information, many in the scientific community have concluded that the report was altered to support the conclusions obtained by the "Summary for Policymakers" solely for political purposes.
Assimilate THAT.
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Well, global warming is occuring, regardless of who's to blame. I mean, Mt. Kilaminjario in Africa is loosing much of it's ice, and glaciers all over the world are receding.
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Well, that was a useless post. Can you substantiate those claims? No? Well, then...
And even assuming that global warming IS occuring, there's no reason to think that it isn't a natural process. Heck, if the average temperature remained exactly constant every year, I'd think more people would be convinced of an intelligent designer, wouldn't you? By your guesses at the method of planetary formation, the temperature SHOULD change. If it's a natural process, why should we bother about it?
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Sooo, if asteroids were going to collide with the Earth (naturally), then we shouldn't bother about it?
If the temperature WAS rising (naturally), then we shouldn't do anything about it, even if we'd end up with an average temperature of 40 degrees C within a couple of decades?
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And how long have they been predicting such dire temperature changes? Again, they were predicting the exact opposite thirty years ago. These people have no credibility.
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"If it's a natural process, why should we bother about it?"
Implying that we should let all natural processes happen, and not do anything to fight them. I am saying that if you believed that the natural processes were bad, and might, say, actually kill you (personally), would you do anything about it?
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Quite right, my statement was unclear. I should have said that if it's a natural process, then why should we bother worrying about our CO2 emmisions? If the planet's going to boil us all anyway (a massive, unsubstantiated assumption), then what little CO2 we put out will make little difference. We'd need to figure out some way to actively LOWER the temperature. How's a nuclear war sound?
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Humans have been altering the Earth for tens of thousands of years to their needs and expectations. Will this result in a decrease in our ability as a species to live and breed? I don't know.
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You do realize, T_T, that your sentence was out of context?
That should be referenced as -Omega on scientists who predict catastrophic global warming who also predicted catastrophic approaching Ice Age 20-30 years ago.
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