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Omega
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On the subject of the SAT, it's just a test put out by a private organization. Many universities find it useful to have their prospective students take this test. The ACT is a similar thing, graded on a scale of 36.

BTW, I just got my SAT results back. 800 verbal, 790 math. 1590. Fifteen-frikin'-ninty. I'm happy.

Of course, the slight problem is that the school I want to go to is one of the ones that Jeff couldn't think of. They base entry on the ACT. Though my 34 from last year ought to be sufficient.

As to exams, they aren't standardized, so far as I know. They're just a MAJOR test, that you take at the end of the year. Not every year, from what I understand of local schools, but your first through third years of high school. It's basically to see if you actually know the material.

Tahna:

Why oppose it in the first place?

Why would teachers' unions oppose testing? Perhaps they don't want it known that the vast majority of them CAN'T TEACH? Just a thought.

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A 1590?! *passes out on the floor* And I thought my 1420 on the PSAT was good. *woeful expression*

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Omega
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Um... PSAT? That's graded on a scale of 240. Buh?

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34? Fuck. You must have cheated. No way you did better than I did... *LOL*

And I think "ACT" stands for "American College Test".


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Book-smart does not equal smart.

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Omega
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Knowledge is what you've learned.

Intelligence is how well you learn.

Wisdom is how you use what you learn.

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Pedantic: Book smart, but not practical. An SAT vocabulary word given and tested by my English teacher last year. Ironic, no?

And about the PSAT scores:

If you break the PSAT down into Verbal, Math, and Language (or whatever that third part is), if you add your verbal and math scores, multiply that by 10, you get your equivalent SAT I score. So, if the PSAT were an SAT I, I would have gotten a 1420. 80 (800) verbal, 62 (620) math.

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Saltah'na
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Why would teachers' unions oppose testing? Perhaps they don't want it known that the vast majority of them CAN'T TEACH? Just a thought.

Omega, that was a RHETORICAL Question.

Why else would I put all that stuff about professional testing?

But I wouldn't go as far as saying that the majority can't teach. I will say that a significant portion of the teachers are unqualified in the first place.

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I know a guy who got a 1600 on his SAT's.

Now he's working in a discount video store.

I, on the other hand, got a modest 1320, with influenza.


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Do they have these SAT's ACT's etc online. I'd like to see just how hard they are & what they entail.
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I don't know if we have to take them in Canada, i think there might be an equivalent of them here.

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Omega
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Fabrux told me that in NB, college entrance is based on standardized state tests called exams. Of course, that's just public schools. What private schools do, I have no idea.

As for the ACT and SAT being available online, not in their original forms. The test is copyrighted. You might find an example test somewhere, though.

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Saltah'na
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It applies to all schools. Universities have the same entrance criteria for students from both Public and Private Schools, if the Private Schools are recognized by whatever state/provincial legislation there is.

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I didn't say that...

I said that we have PEs (provincial exams) that we have to take in grade 11 for math and english. If you don't pass the english PE, well, you have to stay in HS an extra year at least to pass English 11 and English 12. I don't know if there's anything that has to be taken for entry into secondary education.

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