I did not express opinions of any kind except that the things that these two kids did was pretty cruel. And certainly I NEVER SAID that kids should be killed of any kind!
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Jeff Kardde: So, I'm a sick fucker am I? Why? Those boys tortured that poor boy to death and they are allowed to live. This is what I think unfair - that those that have taken a life are allowed to keep their lives - it just doesn't seem fair to me, that's all. I am also concerned about what they might get up to once they are out and also pissed off at the luxury that they've enjoyed and will continue to enjoy at the expense of the taxpayer. The officials say that they will be closely monitored - but people always slip through the net and what happens then? They kill again.
quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: "If they're not gonna be shot then they should be locked in a cold, wet and dark cell *snip* People like them should be put down at birth."
Do I need to point out the slight flaw in that argument?
OK, so I've screwed up in what I meant to say. What that was, I'm not sure anymore Looking at my earlier comments I think that what I meant was - cruel bastards like these two should be shot at birth to prevent them from doing such horrible things. Of course, you'd need some device to determine whether or not people are capable of such things (a DNA reader perhaps), but sadly this does not exist yet.
Mmm, and if I'm not mistaken ladies and gentlemen - this is a discussion forum. It is here for people to discuss ideas and views.
Freedom of speech an' all.
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Yes. You know more words than me. You obviously have the bigger penis.
Joke.
"cruel bastards like these two should be shot at birth to prevent them from doing such horrible things. Of course, you'd need some device to determine whether or not people are capable of such things (a DNA reader perhaps), but sadly this does not exist yet."
Oh my God.
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I still think they should be put in jail where they can be ass-raped by a 6'5" 350pound beast named Tiny. Capital punishment would be unfair in this case, but a lifetime of suffering seems completely fair
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Why the hell not? If they had done this to your child, would you not be crying out for blood? And would this not be the perfect balance between killing them and setting them free?
My final comment: GO TINY!!
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Crying for blood? As in crying for revenge/retribution? The death penalty is something I don't believe in either. Sure, it reduces the number of tax dollars the government spends on jailed prisoners, but is it something that is a GOOD thing? And if you believe in the death penalty, why not just go all out and do drawing and quartering, or hanging or something? Prolong the suffering. Because that's what you want, isn't it?
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"Of course, you'd need some device to determine whether or not people are capable of such things (a DNA reader perhaps), but sadly this does not exist yet."
That's because such a thing will never exist. People's actions, while possibly influenced by genetics, are not determined by them.
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Would anyone have any objection to releasing Venables and Thompson if it could be proved that they had reformed, and that they would go on to live full and productive lives, contributing to society?
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quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: Yes. You know more words than me. You obviously have the bigger penis.
Joke.
"cruel bastards like these two should be shot at birth to prevent them from doing such horrible things. Of course, you'd need some device to determine whether or not people are capable of such things (a DNA reader perhaps), but sadly this does not exist yet."
Oh my God.
Oh my God what?
quote:Originally posted by Aethelwer: Of course, you'd need some device to determine whether or not people are capable of such things (a DNA reader perhaps), but sadly this does not exist yet." That's because such a thing will never exist. People's actions, while possibly influenced by genetics, are not determined by them.
What about the double Y chromosome men? Can't they be detected?
As for the rest of you - ass-raping? Hey! I don't mind if you people do that in your homes, but please keep it to yourselves.
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What do you mean, "Oh my God what?" You suggested that people be genetically screened for violent tendancies, and those who have them be shot at birth!! That's horrible!!
While the Y chromosome for men can be detected, and the X for women, that is a major physical trait we're talking about. It's a whole freaking chromosome too. Very large. To genetically test for psychological tendancies and extrapolate the probablility they would manifest themselves would be nearly impossible, if not entirely so, for reasons stated by Aethelwer.
Also, how would you bracket such a tendancy anyway? What sort of range would you use? Oh, this one's a seven. Too bad. *BANG!* It's inhumane. Who are we to play God and determine who should live and die based on something that might not even manifest itself?
Just because someone is genetically prone to having cancer doesn't mean that we should kill them because they won't be a productive asset to society for their entire lives. We are not here to determine the fate of another. How can we deny someone life who hasn't even had a chance to prove their worth?
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"Would anyone have any objection to releasing Venables and Thompson if it could be proved that they had reformed, and that they would go on to live full and productive lives, contributing to society?"
Yes. Find a way to make them productive from inside the jail. Anyone who is so capable of doing what they did should not be exposed to society.
OK, so I've screwed up in what I meant to say. What that was, I'm not sure anymore 
Looking at my earlier comments I think that what I meant was - cruel bastards like these two should be shot at birth to prevent them from doing such horrible things. Of course, you'd need some device to determine whether or not people are capable of such things (a DNA reader perhaps), but sadly this does not exist yet.
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