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I wonder if these were members of the same religious group [Pentecostals] that burned the Harry Potter books up here several months ago (remember I Posted on that?).
These people are getting more vocal. And no more intelligent.
"Wherever they burn books, they will, in the end, burn human beings." -- Heinrich Heine
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Instead of burning Bibles, we should recycle them, in the hope that whatever is printed on the paper next may actually be of some educational value.
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quote:Originally posted by Sol System: While watching TBN today, I learned that some books need to be burned because the Devil puts hidden messages in them that cause cancer.
And I suppose G.R., Clark, and all those other guys are Satan's minions for bringing forth the idea that we are not the only form of life in this universe and, in fact, we are nothing more that a drop in the bucket when it comes to how much life there is in this galaxy alone!
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Yes, we should burn all stuff related to Star Trek as it is clearly the most evil creation of Satan himself.
And yes, I think I'll burn my U2 CDs as well, since U2 has been labelled as the Anti-Christ.
Who wants to join me?
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I wonder if a decent case could be brought to ban organised religon on the grounds that it interferes with freedom of expression and thought? If so, that would be quite funny...
Seriously (as if I wasn't serious about banning organised religon), though, I'm really saddened and disappointed at this. Still, I suppose there's hope. Perhaps if we lock them away somewhere for long enough they'll evolve into a more responsible and mature species.
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Some Species never mature. Usually fundies.
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You couldn't make the case that burning an author's book that you have legally bought is a violation of his freedom of expression. At least, not to a judge with half a brain, which seem to be hard to come by these days.
I also feel compelled to point out that Pentacostals are hardly mainstream denominational Christians. You've heard of "holy rollers"?
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quote:Originally posted by Vogon Poet: Yes, well, I've become convinced that Wes1701E's posts contain hidden messages that cause cancer, but you don't see me burning him. . . yet. 8)
i dont know why you would think that.... you'll all find out soon enough. *Enables Zeus Canon*
oh great. my outrages have made me fourm bitch. damnit... anyway.
I say we burn the church. and the lady that burned the RATM cds..
quote:You couldn't make the case that burning an author's book that you have legally bought is a violation of his freedom of expression.
I would point out Omega that freedom of expression is not an enumerated right in the Constitution. Could it be that you interpret the First Amendment freedom of Speech Clause?
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quote:Originally posted by Eclipse: I wonder if a decent case could be brought to ban organised religon on the grounds that it interferes with freedom of expression and thought? If so, that would be quite funny...
I guess there IS intelligent life on this planet. Religion has been fucking up this world for the duration of the entire century, all of the biggest genocides and all-round bad things that have happened can be directly linked to religion.
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HATRED of religion (in general or in specificity) has been a fundamental aspect of the beliefs of the three greatest murderers of the century: Stalin, Mao, and Hitler. When was the last time you heard about a bunch of Christians getting together and killing a few million people? Oh, wait. It's never happened, by definition.
You want to outlaw religion because of some perceived danger it presents? OK, how 'bout we outlaw all displays of communistic and socialistic beliefs, too. They've been responsible for nearly a hundred million deaths in this century alone, FAR more than you could possibly blame on any religion. Heck, I doubt that all religions combined have caused that many deaths throughout all of history.
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I would point out Omega that freedom of expression is not an enumerated right in the Constitution.
And I would point out that I was merely responding to exactly what Eclipse said. He used the term "expression", therefore I did as well. Of course, not all rights of the people are enumerated in the Constitution, as stated by the ninth ammendment thereto, so you could make a case that the author of a book has a right to freedom of expression. So long as he doesn't infringe on MY rights to, say, burn my personal property, stupid as my reasons may be.
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HATRED of religion (in general or in specificity) has been a fundamental aspect of the beliefs of the three greatest murderers of the century: Stalin, Mao, and Hitler. When was the last time you heard about a bunch of Christians getting together and killing a few million people? Oh, wait. It's never happened, by definition.
Don't know much about Stalin to make an opinion.
Mao? Yes. He knocked over statues saying they run contrary to Chinese beliefs. Buddhist Priests were forced to flee for fear of persecution. And of course, there is the Dalai Lama. But you say a million? That's an exaggeration. Unless you can actually provide proof of that number. Then I will shut up on that note.
Hitler on the other hand was Christian, and the Nazi symbol that he used was once a Christian religious symbol. His beliefs against the Jews were not only rooted in jealousy of their prosperity, but the fact that the Jews were responsible for the death of Jesus Christ as indicated in the bible.
You want to outlaw religion because of some perceived danger it presents? OK, how 'bout we outlaw all displays of communistic and socialistic beliefs, too. They've been responsible for nearly a hundred million deaths in this century alone, FAR more than you could possibly blame on any religion. Heck, I doubt that all religions combined have caused that many deaths throughout all of history.
Come now. You haven't really remembered what The_Tom told you, have you? Pinochet? Capitalist, pure and simple. Yet he killed many people who opposed his regime. Betcha that Milosevic was not a Socialist or a Communist either. And I am beginning to believe more that Hitler wasn't exactly a socialist despite what his party's name stands for. Ariel Sharon is getting up there, with his disregard for his Middle East Peace. And many people say he is RIGHT-WING. This is in terms of economics. Like many other capital minded people, he wants his country to flourish economically.
And let us not forget the Islamic Fundamentalists, who line their pockets with gold from their oil profits, and kill people because they are missing a piece of sacred clothing.
It is not the matter of whether one believes in communism or capitalism. It is the matter of whether or not one believes in fascism and libertarianism. Communism and Capitalism is nothing more than an economic mindset.
Remember that.
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No, he wasn't, again, by definition. As for whether even he believed that he was, read this.
But you say a million?
I'm not quite sure what you're refering to. Are you contesting that Mao was the second greatest mass-murderer of the twentieth century (second only to Stalin)?
Pinochet? Capitalist, pure and simple. Yet he killed many people who opposed his regime. Betcha that Milosevic was not a Socialist or a Communist either.
Yeah, and how many people did those two tin-pot dictators kill, as opposed to how many the socialists did?
Like many other capital minded people, he wants his country to flourish economically.
You mean that there are people who DON'T want their countries to flourish economically? Oh, wait. I keep forgetting about the Democrats.
It is not the matter of whether one believes in communism or capitalism.
Nor is it a matter of whether one believes in Christ, Buddah, the manifold Hindu gods, or none at all. The danger comes from certain types of people being in power, regardless of beliefs. Thanks for helping make my point.
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