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First of Two
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http://dailynews.netscape.com/mynsnews/story.tmpl?table=n&cat=50900&id=20010727075 4000271731

13 years old, and she's taken part in the ritual murders of 48 people, and murdered a 2-year-old on her own.

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Thus proving everything's A-OK in the USA!
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Wes
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huh? according to the 2000 International Human Development Report (HDR), comparatively, everything is fine in the US. According to the HDR in 2000 for crime, here are the rankings:

Top:

#01) Canada
#02) Norway
#03) United States
#04) Australia

other countries that might interest you:

#10) United Kingdom
#12) France
#14) Germany
#20) New Zealand

The rankings are based on People incarcerated, juvenile convictions, Total recorded crimes, drug offences, rapes, and recorded homicides.

the statistics and rankings are based of percentage and population, so countries with larger populations don’t get their occurrence numbers compared to countries with smaller populations. Its quite interesting. In example, according to these statistics, in a random sampling of 100 teens from any country, the US is least likely to have a large number of convicts (excluding Canada and Norway, of course).

These statistics and a whole bunch of others can be found at

http://www.undp.org/hdro/highlights/statistics.html

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The United States - third place? That's rediculous.
Plus Norway can't possibly have second place, no one lives there! (ok, that was kind of harsh but true)

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First of Two
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It only seems rediculous because it goes against what you've been told by media and the pundits.

What you have to remember are two things:

1: The media would tell you that purple pandas were invading from Neptune if it would keep you watching and them getting ratings, and lucrative commercial deals.

2: If the problems that the pundits pretend to rail against actually went away, they'd be out of a job and reduced to irrelevancy. They don't WANT you to think that the problem isn't big.


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Sure.

I'm suprised there are no third world countries in the list.


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Wait, what? Huh?

Canada is the worst in crime?

When did this report come out? I have never heard of such a thing.

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I agree,

Canada can't possibly have the worst crime level in the entire world!

Rusland would be my guess, or the US.


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Halt! Halt! I think you people have it backward, the statistics rate countries from "best to worse" not "worse to best", note that....Wes says

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Its quite interesting. In example, according to these statistics, in a random sampling of 100 teens from any country, the US is least likely to have a large number of convicts (excluding Canada and Norway, of course)

Of course, we don't know the criteria used...but we can "still" American bash as long as we live in Canada (or Norway)


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So generally you're saying the crime is worse in holland and the US is one of the countries with the least crime? lol Disneyland stats.

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First of Two
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Well, the Dutch do have all those tulip smugglers to worry about...

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U.S. has less then 5% of the world's population, but contain 25% strong of the world's prison population.

That dosn't sound "A-Okey" to me.

Beside, U.S. is a developed G8 country, with a standardized education system, same cannot be said for Nigiria.

The conparison cannot be made to justify the "safeness" of U.S. teenagers.

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A large part of our prison problem is who we throw in jail. We clear out convicted murderers to make room for people who are addicted to drugs. Obviously, our "war on drugs" is a dismal failure, has been since it's inception, and needs to be re-evaluated.

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Da_bang80
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I agree that anit-drug...umm...what the hell was that word? anti-drug somthing... it's too late to be doing any thinking. anti drug thingies aren't doing much. even in Canada it's bad. people in my town are even thinking of putting up needle drop off points for the druggies to put thier needles. instead of throwing them on the ground, If i were a druggie (i'm not by the way) i would probably be too stoned to care. i heard on the news that people were putting something into thier crack to get a bigger high.

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Sounds good Da_Bang, crack isn't illegal in Canada or something? If there were needle drop points the cops could easily pick up the junks there ...
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