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Grokca
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Did nobody notice that the official didn't quit over the stand on Kyoto but about deadly toxins in the air. Whether you believe that global warming is occurring or not, has nothing to do with this. Pouring deadly toxins in the air at the rate that we are is bad, even FOT couldn't ignore the science on that. If it comes to putting less pollution in our air, I'm all for it. Sure it will cause short term job losses in some areas, but in other areas, such as filtering technologies it will increase jobs. Finding ways to curb pollution rates is important not because of what the first world is doing but because of what the third world is doing. As the first world becomes more service oriented and the third world is taking on the jobs of raw material manipulation (ie steel mills,aluminum,ore processing) it is up to the first world to help them do this safely. We have polluted some of the most beautiful places to death in NA and Europe and now we should help the emerging economies to get on their feet without destorying their envoments as we have. Less pollution is just common sence, most people can't see that because they are only looking short term.

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That would be good, except that every treaty out there EXEMPTS the developing countries from the pollution standards, because they know that those standards will cripple the countries' economic development. Even Kyoto exempted China (by far the largest polluter in terms of production to pollution ratio), Brazil, etc.

Dehli, Beijing, Moscow, all have much more particulates per cubic meter in their air than any US city. In fact, in a study of a large number of major metropolitan areas, only France and Japan had lower pollution levels than New York

http://www.worldbank.org/depweb/beyond/beyondbw/begbw_10.pdf.

The US already has lower production to pollution rates than any other country and higher pollution standards than most countries in the world. Perhaps if the rest of the world would play catch-up, they wouldn't need to worry about the US so much.

Guess we're firmly in the pocket of the wood products industry too, eh?
http://news.ehsglobal.com/ajb/2-118,271-103,20928111

Yep, the government is doing nothing.
http://news.ehsglobal.com/ajb/2-118,271-103,20854439

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I don't know where you got the highest production/pollution rates in the world from but the world bank site you sent us to doesn't work so I'm not sure what you are refering to there. Looking around the world bank site though it shows the US has the highest Co2 emmissions per capita in the world. Could you please show us where you got the p/p rates from?

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http://www.google.com /search?q=cache:kQcuHSPoju4C:www.worldbank.org/depweb/beyond/beyondbw/begbw_10.pdf+pollution+standards+worldwide&hl=en&ie=ISO-8859-1

There we go, table 10.1

I'm looking for a comparative study of the US's pollution standards vs. other countries' but haven't found one yet.

[ March 18, 2002, 16:00: Message edited by: First of Two ]

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