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Omega
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In simpler terms, c is constant for all points in space, but not NECESSARILY for all points in time.

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PsyLiam
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What side are you arguing for again here?

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Malnurtured Snay
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Omega
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The side that says that a decreasing speed of light doesn't violate relativity. Did I miss a post that I made?

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PsyLiam
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I don't know. Did you?

And I meant generally. You started this thread. What was your point?

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Malnurtured Snay
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Point, who needs a point.
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Vacuum robot lady from Spaceballs
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Topic Starter: Omega.

Jeff edits too fast.

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Omega
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I just find it amusing that back during the original Creation/Evolution debate... three years or so ago now, I posted that there was good evidence of a decreasing speed of light, and everyone scoffed.

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Ritten
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That could have been just because every liked scoffing you... But this may not be the case now...

If the older light is slowing down, what then happens at the point where the newer faster light over takes the slower older light?

Shit, missed my Kirk-speak....

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TSN
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For one thing, the speed of light supposedly slowed. Which would mean it's the newer light that slower, not the older. But I don't think it works that way, anway. All the light everywhere is moving at one speed. It's just that that speed is slower today than it used to be.
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Sol System
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quote:
I posted that there was good evidence of a decreasing speed of light
No you didn't. You still haven't.
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PsyLiam
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Yes. Linking to an internet article != automatic good evidence for a theory.
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Cartman
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Hmm.

This article sheds a better light on the matter. A varying electromagnetic coupling constant could be caused by a number of things (Planck's unit, alternating electric charge, *and* fluctuating lightspeed), but there is also the possibility that the accumulated data has simply been misinterpreted. Regardless, I think it's safe to say we won't be zippin' around the galaxy at FTL velocities anytime soon.

[ August 12, 2002, 04:49: Message edited by: Colorful Cartman ]

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The Talented Mr. Gurgeh
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I think the point Omega was trying to make was:

"Well, now.... it looks like light is slowing down, ergo the world isn't 10-20 billion years old, oh no, it's about 5 or 6 thousand years old like I tried to tell you before. Of course the tiny magnitude of the change in c isn't of much importance".

Well, Omega, is this about right or am I putting words in your mouth?

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Curry Monster
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You'll have to pardon me, but since my physics knowledge is almost non-existant can someone shed some light on this?

What would it take to actually slow light down? An increase in the mass of the universe? There must be some counter force acting upon it (and therefore on time itself) to have this effect. Any ideas on what the force may in.

For instance: If the universe had started to collapse, thus drawing all matter/energy/whatever towards a central point that may force light to slow.

Also, if space and time are linked (I may be way out here, but...) wouldn't a slowdown in the speed of light somehow effect or be a symptom or, or be synonamous with a slowdown in time as well?

*Waits for suitably knowledgeable person to make sense of it all*.

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