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Why was it necessary to attack Spacedock? Surely there must be Borg drones there too. And whatever happened to quantum torpedoes?
What was Seven even trying to achieve? We've heard all season long in dialogue and by TPTB what an underdog the Titan is. And then she's going to battle 200+ more advanced vessels?
Likewise the TNG crew went up against a massive cube without a plan. It was only due to the Borg Queen's idiotic need to explain her plan to Picard that they survived.
So let me get this straight. Jack Crusher after willingly going to the Borg Queen which allowed her to set her plan in motion killing hundreds/thousands, doing some Locutus-cosplaying and doing absolutely nothing to save the day gets rewarded with a Starfleet commission?
Thank good Starfleet has its priorities straight. Introducing a new shinier Starfleet combadge mere hours/days (?) after that catastrophe. Speaking of costumes: Picard, La Forge and Riker were still wearing the same clothes one year later. And apparently there wasn't enough budget left for correct admiral pips for Beverly.
I laughed in utter disbelief when they revealed the Enterprise-G. Most moronic fanwank ever. And very insulting that this anachronistic lazy ship design is now an Enterprise.
Season 3 very hard tried to undo everything big the previous two seasons did. They brought back the Borg as enemies and resurrected Data and Q.
Nice to have Walter Koenig back but I think grandson would've worked better.
In the end I'm just glad that they didn't kill off anybody of the TNG main crew. The show ended with them playing poker just like in "All Good Things" which I very much prefer as the end of TNG.
My final thoughts of Season 3
the good: reuniting the TNG crew (although there was some unnecessary conflict at times and it ended just like "All Good Things") nobody of the main cast was killed off seeing the Enterprise-D again (although like Worf i prefer the Enterprise-E) the leather jackets
the bad: a preposterous storyline riddled with plot holes and convenient coincidences the anachronistic Titan-A and the fanwanky rechristening to Enterprise-G Vadic, the most annoying villain in Trek history the character assassination of Beverly Crusher the return of the Borg Jack Crusher killing off Legacy characters very often felt like very bad fanfiction Matalas's inappropriate social media behaviour
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So, I've seen the episode, but I don't have time to do my usual breakdown this morning.
I will say this now, though... I would have been cool with Captain Seven of a brand-new Enterprise-G, since they've established the F was retiring. But renaming the Titan-A? That just takes a confusing ambiguous situation and makes it even worse.
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What. The actual
FUCK!!
Did I just watch.
Every is magically saved! All it takes is a hug & a little love! Awwwww... (retch) Everyone magically has a new happy life!
"Enterprise-G" MY FUCKING ASS.
And the way they didn't even TRY to be sibtle about Matalas' "Legacy" wanky bullshit. Even said the fucking word right there! And Q?! Jesus H. FUCK.
Booking a ticket to LA to hunt Matalas down & croquet-mallet his cockles.
The only things I really liked were Snorf, & that this fucking travesty is finally done.
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Season 1 & 2 were unnecessary, except to tell seven and raffi’s story. I would watch Captain Nine or captain seven… or whatever she’s called. Would watch Jack walk in to the captain and first officer getting freaky with it.
Finale was just a random TNG episode. Maybe they should have left the screenplay for the protostar.
Good to see Brent spiner just be himself. Would have like to see bev go rescue her son as opposed to picard.
It was good to see the big D fly again: going in and out of warp. Pass over head and underneath, also doing a full stop in front an unknown behemoth.
I appreciate production’s explanation on the ship porn.
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Matalas must have a real hard-on for the Connie III.
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OK, so that happened. And I quite enjoyed it (watched on my iPhone on a transatlantic flight - I had about in theory an hour to download it on the Prime app before we boarded, but in practice it was much less as it didn’t ‘drop’ at the strike of midnight UK time).
And I quite enjoyed it. But it helps if you don’t think about it too much. Which isn’t really SOP for Star Trek…
The mechanism by which generic assimilation occurs and manifests itself remains nebulous.
The whole of Earth’s planetary defence hinging on Spacedock seems odd, even more so that it itself could sustain a concerted defence against massed bombardment from hundreds of capital ships; I guess that’s encouraging in a way? I wonder if the full defence grid incorporates things like weapons platforms akin to those in the Chin’toka system, or self-replicating mines…
So, it’s like that Doctor Who episode in which James fucking Corden resists Cyber-conversion through the power of love. Marvellous.
Do people actually visit the museum? If so, wouldn’t they want to go stand on the bridge of the D? In which case, wouldn’t they need to leave the lights on?
So despite everything we learned about Shaw, he was already going to recommend Seven for Captain before all this kicked off? Hmm. And she gets to have her (ex?) girlfriend as first officer. And a fast-tracked ensign as… counsellor?
OK, so I was thinking they might have renamed the Titan as the USS Picard. It would be a nice endnote to the show, being eponymous and all. I’m not sure how I feel about the already-woolly Titan-A being renamed the Ent-G, or that such a relatively minor ship class has been so honoured. The trend seems to be for capital ships to be Enterprises; this reverses that.
Furthermore it also massively reverses a progressive growth in Ent size. The D, 600m; the E, 700n; the F, 1000m… the J, two miles.
Q dying was stupid anyway so not too fussed about him coming back. It would have more sense if it had been his son, though: a true passing on to the next generation.
Overall though, it’s fine, that’s done, the TNG crew get their proper send-off and happy ever after we wanted them to have. Data is not just back, but has become a real boy. Deanna flew the Enterprise and didn’t crash it!
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After watching Season 3, I've got to ask...but what was the point of Season 2 and the "Happy Friendly Borg"? Where is Juraqueen, and what was her New Collective doing while Classic Collective was doing it's thing? Have TPTB actually watched what they themselves have produced?
And what was the point of introducing a love interest for Picard with Laris, given she's been completely forgotten by the finale?
And how did Seven get to be a captain so quickly? Hell how did she even get to be a commander in the first place, given she didn't even have a Starfleet commission in Season 2...set literally a year before this season! I can grudgingly forgive Jack getting a commission without attending the academy (after all, his half-brother did), but come on...does anyone attend Starfleet Academy any more?
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As for Seven, they probably factored in her service aboard Voyager and her Borg skills. Jack on the other hand really should be in prison for helping the Queen.
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There’s a case to be made that Jack had been pre-assimilated so his judgement could be considered impaired, plus he went to meet the Queen intending to stop her not join her.
It’s quite obvious the goalposts shifted massively throughout the show’s run/production, to a degree that rivals the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy. Why else give Laris a husband then kill him off to free her up to be a love interest, then write her out? Why do all three seasons have wildly different codas to the Borg, all valid to some degree (YMMV)? The Agneborg Happy Fun Collective, well it’s an interesting idea and one that simultaneously doesn’t add up given what we know… while also the idea itself (that they’re a Collective formed in the past by a time-travelling human and a Queen from a variant timeline where the Borg lost and lost badly, and they did their best to stay out of history’s way once returned to the prime timeline) has a certain elegance. Why have Q die then ignore it?
Matalas seems to have a plan (no, stop laughing) or at least a pitch, and that plan is implied to be some sort of semi-anthology format. So all this could be seeding for that.
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So in almost 40 years, we've gone through D (7 years), E (10 years implied), F (19 years implied), & now G. This is, of course, all based on the supposition that it's all the same universe, which I don't hold to.
Anyway. J is allegedly in service some 150 years later. That's only 3 letters. Can these idiots who love short-life ships so much mkae it? Probably not.
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So there's the Jupiter approach shot which is completely amazeballs and is easily one of the best shots of a Galaxy Class ever done. The model is almost perfect.
But, they also used a model where literally half of it was built and the rest was mirrored, so there's no registry, the two lower shuttlebays are the same size, there are problems with the deck layout (especially the upturned/circularized forward engineering hull decks), and the deflector's all jacked up. (This is the same model as appeared in the warp-out shot from Ep 9.) That model was used in close-ups, too, including the initial flyby with its dark "saucer deflector" four-square on the underside of the saucer (though even that shot's different depending on whether you got the US or EU version).
There are a ton of differences and tells, more here than I can list. Indeed, I'm up to at least three different versions . . . it's almost as if every shot/sequence involved a different model. So near as I can tell, only the Jupiter Approach and the final flight away from the exploding Supercubicus Regina got the best model.
I realize production realities will never disappear, but it's kinda sad that some of this work, intended for HD and better, is literally half-assed thanks to the mirrored model wierdness. After all this time waiting to see a Galaxy given her due, we basically just get that one Jupiter shot and a blurry flyby. Sad.
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