Anyway, the Voyager episode "Q2" featuring Q and his now-teenaged son Q is on. It starts with Icheb giving a presentation on early Starfleet history to Janeway. And, I swear, Icheb said that Kirk's historic five-year mission ended in 2207. Isn't that about fifty or so years way too early?
I'll comment on the rest of the episode when it's over. On another note, that Cadbury Bunny audition commercial is on again for about the tenth year in a row.
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2270, I believe, is what Ichy said. That's what I heard, anyway.
I watched this episode too. I'm kinda of irritated about how they've ruined the character of Q. Mind you, this is the first Q/Voyager episode I've watched since the first one many many moons ago.
DS9 handled the character a lot better when he did that pesterin' on the station.
We first see Q, and he's like a scientist conducting tests on the crew of the Enterprise. He wants to see how humans react to various situations. (Encounter at Farpoint, Hide and "Q", Q-Who?)
Then he shows up AS a human, so it's all still the basic "learning what it means to be human", etc.
ARGH!!! I just think Q was a lot cooler in TNG and DS9.
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Episode's over. And, I guess I should add, it's the first episode I've seen in almost a year.
Overall, I liked the episode. Like father, like son. Q Junior was really an annoying little !@#$ who needed a good smack upside the head. Of course, he did take away Neelix's vocal cords and Seven's clothes. From there, the episode was pretty well paced, in my opinion. I liked the ending; it didn't seem too contrived or predictable to me. It would have been interesting to Q Junior stay onboard as a human, but I guess that it is a little too late to start adding youngsters to the cast. Especially since we already have Icheb and Naomi.
Best lines from the episode: "The Continuum has told you before: DO NOT PROVOKE THE BORG!" -- Q Senior
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"The Continuum has told you before: DO NOT PROVOKE THE BORG!"
Why does it matter? Can't Q just snap their fingers and send 'em back to whence they came? (Speaking of which, woulda been nice to see "Q-2" - Corbin Bernsen - show up as one of the judges)
And didn't Q provoke the Borg in Q-Who? (Sort-of?)
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I don't know. It sounded like Icheb said "two thousand two-hundred seven." Maybe he did say seventy and I didn't catch it. Stranger things have happened.
I think Voyager has changed the Q character to a good degree, but I don't he's been ruined. He still seems to be his same old self. It's just this time around he was trying to figure out how to be a parent.
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Eh ... I don't know. I rather enjoyed Q in Q-Less.
"You hit me! Picard never hit me!"
"I'm not Picard!"
I wish Sisko and Q could've gone head to head more often.
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I'm just waiting for the screencaps of naked Seven of Nine to be posted...
(Okay, I know it's just her back, but it's those little things that count.)
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Icheb definitely said 2207, but that was probably a typo in the script or error on the actor's part that didn't get caught.
I wouldn't call Q1's actions in "Q Who?" provoking the Borg per se. If Picard had been a good boy and followed Guinan's advice, the Borg probably wouldn't have detected them (at least not for a while). Of course, if Picard had followed Guinan's advice, Q probably would have provoked the Borg in order to set in motion the events that would have lead to Picard's begging for help.
My biggest problem with the episode:
Could Q's help have been any more vaguer?
For those of us keeping track of Voyager's mileage, this is going to wreak havoc. Just how many years constitute a few?
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2270 WOULDN'T be right, though. 2269 would.
And yay, I don't get to see VGR again until AFTER the finale because there's no UPN station here & someone in CT is taping it all for me. Fucking cable company...no Sci-Fi, Bravo, or History Channel unless I get a converter. What the fuck's up with THAT?!?
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Icheb did say 2270, which was strange because I'm wondering it only took a year to change the original configuration of the Consittution Class to the refit one.
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Yeah, that's an "oops". Scotty said he's spent the last year-and-a-half refitting the Enterprise. I SUPPOSE the V'Ger incident could have been late in 2271, and the Enterprise pulled into drydock in early 2270... *shrug*
Besides, we have to allow time for the animated series. *grin*
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2269 would have been correct? Says who? The Okudas? Big Deal.
Does 2270 contradict canon? Okay so we have the year and a half line, but a year and a half from when? I don't recall anything canon saying that TMP took place in 2271. Until the chronology I always assumed that it took place about ten years after the end of the series, and never really liked the Okuda's conjecture about it.
This would bump the five year mission up a year, meaning that Where No Man Has Gone Before took place in 2266.
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Ya know, it's funny. This seems like a rehash of "Charlie X" from TOS. Also, remember "Squire of Gothos", with Trelane? Same plot. And then there was speculation after Q's first appearances in TNG that he was really Trelane. There was an article in one of those "Best of Trek" books called "Q of Gothos" that speculated that Q was Trelane - both liked to dress up in costumes and cause trouble on ships named Enterprise, similar powers etc. Then.. In a novel called "Q Who" I think it was called, it was revealed that Q was Trelane's father. It was Q who we hear talking to Trelane at the end of Squire of Gothos". A nice connection between TNG and TOS. Now... We have Q as a father with a son who is a pain in the butt etc etc. We've seen all this before!!
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