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Someone over at TrekBBS found this, apparently on one of the TNG DVD sets.
Apparently, following the end of shooting the model for Star Trek Generations, ILM took the liberty of relabeling the model as NCC-1701-E, since they assumed the model would be used again for the next Enterprise. Apparently no one has bothered to put the registry back to where it belongs...
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OH MY GOD!! That's completely fucking WILD!!
After I saw "Generations" the first time, I decided on the same thing, that the next Galaxy model I built would be a "placeholder" Enterprise. I figured the next one wouldn't be a GalaxyGibraltar.
Nice to see that someone at ILM had the same thought as me.
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I should also point out that the DS9 model is in the background of the first picture...sitting upside-down.
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Yeah. Looks a bit too sharp compared to the rest of the photo. But when you sharpen or brighten it in PSP, there are absolutely no signs of 'photoshopping'.
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well then someone wit the DVDs better start looking then??
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I've never been completely sure of this, but is this the original 6 foot model? I heard that ILM took it apart and resufaced it for Generations, but some places say it was just used for the saucer seperation bit, and others say it was used for the entire film.
And isn't it the 4 footer that got relabled to the Venture?
Isn't that second dash really small? From what I remember of the A and D, the dash between the "1701" and the letter was the same size as the dash between the "NCC" and "1701". It actually looks off centre here. Compare what escape pods the registry starts and ends on.
And finally, why on earth would ILM think that in the first place? The Enterprise-D wasn't destroyed for story reasons, like the original was. It was destroye precisely so that they could have a cooler ship in the next film.
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OK... I had heard this story, too... but these phots clearly look fake to me. The "E" in the first picture looks like it's crooked and up a little too far... which it isn't in the second photo. Secondly, as has been mentioned before, the registry looks way too sharp compared to the rest of the picture.
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Thing is though, it does seem that the 'E' is at a slightly awkward angle, but it looks that way in both pictures. Or something.
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That's the 6 foot model and the picture is not a fake. It comes from the Season 2 box-set documentation "Starfleet Archives" with Penny Juday. No explanation for the "-E" given. She asks the viewer what is wrong with the picture, then she reveals the "-E" and says "Why is that so?"
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quote:Isn't that second dash really small? From what I remember of the A and D, the dash between the "1701" and the letter was the same size as the dash between the "NCC" and "1701". It actually looks off centre here. Compare what escape pods the registry starts and ends on.
The second dash is correct as the Connie model labeled as 1701-A has a small dash just as the Galaxy model labeled 1701-D had a small dash. Even the E-C was labeled like that and I'd venture to say so was the E-B. However the real E-E was labeled with both dashes being the same width.
Also I don't think it really matters if the registry is off-center because I think each digit is applied separately and sometimes off-centering happens.
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quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: I've never been completely sure of this, but is this the original 6 foot model? I heard that ILM took it apart and resufaced it for Generations, but some places say it was just used for the saucer seperation bit, and others say it was used for the entire film.
Yep. Still pisses me off that ILM did a beautiful job on renovations to the model just for it to get six seconds of screentime (the exterior shots of the Enterprise approaching Amargosa and Veridian III, plus the brief exterior shots during the Klingon battle). *Sigh...* That ship was incredible...
This whole story was also confirmed in that ILM book that came out a number of years ago (with the Death Star and the X-wings on the cover). I don't think that ILM actually thought that the Galaxy class would be used for the Enterprise-E, just that they thought it would be neat to do what they did with the original motion picture Enterprise when it became the Enterprise-A.
BTW, the "E" looks off-centered to me because the "D" that used to be there was much, much wider (look at some of the reference shots at EAS and you'll see what I mean).
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