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Hobbes
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No. I think it was in that TNG Tribute black book talking about Roddenberry needing to be heavily convinced about Patrick Stewart as the captain.

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Dax
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I personally like the later seasons of TNG better then the early ones. DS9 is my favourite series by far. Voyager has never impressed me very much and is the worst of all the series. That's my opinion, anyway.

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Diane
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Well, we're sad to see Ron go, yes, but are we really all *that* surprised at Braga's reaction? Look at it. It's not today's news that Trek fans have dwindled in number with Voyager. And who likes Brannon Braga? Don't think I need to answer that one. He had been under enough pressure from Trek fans, who constantly compare his pet Voyager to DS9 and Ron Moore. Now that DS9 is over, Ron Moore casually struts over and is promptly hailed as Voyager's new hope. So what does that make Braga?

Let me give you an analogy (the following situation is purely fictional): Charles Capps owns these forums, pays for them, and constantly tries to improve them for the benefit of us, the users. But one thing he hates is that his forums are always compared to Trekweb's board (which is no comparison in actuality, but suspend your disbelief for a moment ), and Trekweb's admin is hailed as one of the best Trek webmaster ever for his site. One day Trekweb shut down because...uh...it was hacked into and deleted during an annual hacker's convention, so its admin is out of a job, right? Not exactly. Because of popular demand, the admin transfers to Flare, which is no Trekweb but the next best thing. Now all the users at Flare are happily expecting a revamp of these forums: new graphics, new interface, and the extinction of spam and such annoyances. Promises of a better forum, basically, that *Charles* couldn't have done. Now how would that make Charles feel?

Okay, I think I went too far and too long with this analogy. But the point is, it's a ego/territorial thing. Braga worked on Voyager for 5+ years, and here comes someone who's expected to do a better job than he did. Of course he's bound to get jealous and upset. How far this jealousy gets, however, is anyone's guess.

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Diane
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One more thing...

Dax: seen Voyager lately?

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Nim
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I'm just happy someone in the Voyager staff took the big step and made the voyager crew confess to the existence of lavatories!

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Elim Garak
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But Moore's been in the business longer than Braga, so you'd think Braga might understand... Oh well.

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Kosh
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It's a power thing.

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Elim Garak
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Yes, Braga got promotion whiplash.

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Dax
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Ziyal: I've seen every episode of Voyager up to and including 'Dark Frontier'. I buy the videos. DS9 is far superior.

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I wish I could say I'm forced to agree with Dax, but there's really no resistance in the decision. While Voyager does have a great episode or two, there's always a couple decent episodes and pathetically bad ones like The Disease, The Fight, or Threshold. There's an article up at Myrkr right now by Cleveland G. Oakes that some of you may know from the Trek Usenet groups about the state of Star Trek. It is very well written and I do agree with his assessment (except on some level I did like Insurrection, but it could have easily been a TV movie or episode). Here's the article:

http://www.myrkr.com/StarTrek/opinions/loveofkirk.html

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Elim Garak
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"The Disease" isn't all that bad.

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I seem to have written the only positive review of "The Disease" in existance...

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Elim Garak
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My review bashes it a lot, like all others except Sol's, but I've come to like it, actually.

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Mr. Oakes is dead on the money. Money being the key. The Rod always wanted to make a lot of money, but he also wanted to make good TV. Now we are down to pure money.

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