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...Sela jusd did a quick scan for her mom's DNA and found some on Data (He does'nt need to shower after all) and then....
No. That's just sick.
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quote:Originally posted by Timo: I gather the Romulan spy network would be very interested indeed in the affairs of the starbase so close to their border. Yet the very appearance of the fleet seemed to come as a surprise to the Romulans, and its composition ("too small to be an invasion fleet") beduffled them for a long time. Perhaps Sela only got the crucial information after a delay - which is why she also engaged in the stalling maneuver of contacting Picard.
Actually, Sela first found out about Picard's fleet while she was still on Qo'noS. Because it was Lursa or B'Etor who brought the news... and then she had that Romulan General who was with her send a message and prepare their own fleet.
Yes, they were surprised about the fleet's relatively small size and the fact that they originally assumed that Starfleet wouldn't be able to blockade them because of the cloaking device, but....
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Actually, I think the Sutherland bridge had the redressed back walls of the ST6 Excelsior bridge (which was redressed from the Enterprise-A bridge). The rest of the set may have been the kitchen set. There certainly was a viewscreen, but it was very small and more like a regular station display panel.
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Mabye the Romulans had a bug in the Enterprise A's kitchen from waaaay back in the day and so, of course, it was still there 80 years later in the Southerland's bridge.......
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The Sutherland's bridge incorporated nothing of the ST6 bridge (one wonders why not; it's possible they were keeping it for reshoots) and incorporated stock props (chairs, monitors, etc.) from previous sets (Data's chair was previously on the Enterprise-C). Anyone have screencaps of the Sutherland's bridge?
quote: Perhaps Sela only got the crucial information after a delay
I would not be at all surprised to learn that Sela was not popular with some members of the Tal Shiar. I mean, always coming up with covert invasion plans and black ops work...that's not the job of a mere military officer!
On the other hand, I can see her primary loyalty being to the Tal Shiar, with the military not so hot on her presence among their ranks.
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quote:Originally posted by CaptainMike: Why do we have to come up with a complicated explanation for a very simple plot point? Hasn't anyone ever heard of Occam's Razor?
Well, the reason for the thread is that the simple line by Sela should've been "Direct the beam at that ship", while pointing to the Sutherland on the monitor.
It just struck me odd that the writers would use the line "at the ship with the Android captain", when it wasn't established that the Romulans didn't know Data was not still on the Enterprise.
It was the specific dialogue that made me question how the Romulans knew about Data on the Sutherland.
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nah i still dont think that they could be that precise.. i mean, Data doesnt have lifesigns, and so they scan the chair and find noone there, so they assume an automaton. the logical explanation would be that the captain was standing somewhere else
still, we know that there was radio chatter (and it didnt behoove them to encode it, since they wanted the Romulans to know that they were there and that they were watching), and we know that Sela could very likely have knowledge of Data from both Romulan intelligence and from her memories of Mom's stories.
just saying, she could have known very easily without any wierd superspy-supersensor analysis-informant situation. making this whole discussion moot.
BTW, is anyone else of the assumption that was the Sutherland's auxiliary control center? it seemed kinda.. lame. A much better effect would have been to relight the Enterprise-D bridge and change the side wall panels to add some claustrophobia.. or perhaps use the battle bridge. evn though its small, at least it was a bridge (although parts of it were probably reconditioned for STVI.. i remember reading that the turbolift alcoves for the TMP-TSFS bridge were resued in ST:V, ST:VI and then again for the E-E bridge in FC -- as a link to the past, just as the corridors used until the E-D's death in Generations were the same from TMP, 15 years earlier
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...as if the Captain sits in that chair all the time...
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Surely a sensor that could detect a human being sitting in a chair millions of kilometers away would be able to detect a sophisticated mechanism sitting there, too?
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quote:Originally posted by CaptainMike: BTW, is anyone else of the assumption that was the Sutherland's auxiliary control center? it seemed kinda.. lame
Since the Tech Manual reveals that starship bridges are Plug-and-Play modules easily swapped out for upgrading, and we know from Picard's line:
"I'm going to add the Tian An Men, the Sutherland, and the Hermes, whether the Yard Superintendant says they're ready or not."
The Sutherland did have visible damage on her starboard nacelle, so she may have been in the drydock for battle-related repairs and what we saw was only a temporary bridge, not the regular Nebula Class bridge.
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I'd rather believe it's an aux control center... That bridge was so awkward, there's no way that it could be a regular bridge. Battle bridge at best, assuming the non-separating Nebula needs one.
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