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PsyLiam
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Of course, there's every chance that he could be replaced by someone who knows less about Trek, doesn't care at all about what Gene Roddenberry created, and ends up taking everything good from Enterprise and replacing it with everything bad from Andromeda and Baywatch Hawaii?

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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Naturally. But it could also be someone like Mike Sussman or Phyllis Strong, who do care about Trek and are familiar with its history and details, and have been responsible for penning some of the best episodes of the series thus far.

Like Kirk said, "Risk is part of the game if you want to sit in that chair." "Risk is our business."

-MMoM [Big Grin]

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PsyLiam
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There's a fairly huge difference between being a writer and being the executive producer.

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No doubt. But they are both already Co-Producers.

-MMoM [Big Grin]

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PsyLiam
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Doesn't mean much. Almost the entire writing staff of every show ended up with at least a Co-Producer credit. I'm pretty sure all you had to do was open the door to one of the Paramount Bigwigs and they gave you a co-producers credit on the show of your choice.

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Well, look at DS9. Once Berman and Piller left, it was two ex-writers -- Ron Moore and Ira Behr -- who exec produced the show.

--Jonah

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PsyLiam
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Berman didn't leave - he was always exec producer.

And Moore was never an executive producer. For series 7 (and possibly 6 and 5) he was a co-executive producer, which isn't the same thing.

The only exec producers of DS9 were Berman, Piller and Behr. And the writing team all seemed to be either co-producers, supervising producers, or co-supervising producers. As to what the difference is...that will forever be a mystery.

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Austin Powers
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Well, I have never understood the need for so many types of producers anyway. I mean where does it end?
Everyone involved in the production could be called some kind of producer.

How about the set producer, the make-up producer, the paint producer, the light producer...
Hell, even the actors could become "scene producers". [Roll Eyes]

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Jason Abbadon
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I just want to (re)produce with the actresses from DS9.

Nothing wrong with that.

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You want to do a coproduction with Louise Fletcher?
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quote:
Originally posted by Austin Powers:
Well, I have never understood the need for so many types of producers anyway. I mean where does it end?
Everyone involved in the production could be called some kind of producer.

How about the set producer, the make-up producer, the paint producer, the light producer...
Hell, even the actors could become "scene producers". [Roll Eyes]

It's done because it's a cheap way to give someone an on paper promotion that doesn't cost you much. Ooooh, I'm a producer!

It's the same problem that corporations have where they now have so many presidents and vice presidents that the titles don't mean anything any more.

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Jason Abbadon
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quote:
Originally posted by Cartman:
You want to do a coproduction with Louise Fletcher?

If thats what it takes to bang Chase Masterson...
sure.

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