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I just watched "The Die is Cast" on SpikeTV last night, and I noticed that the set behind Admiral Toddman ((in his yellow Starfleet security admiral's uniform (!) )) was deliberately lit and styled like the Starbase 11 picture painted for TOS "Court-Martial" with a the magenta sky and bright sunset.

Has anyone noticed this?

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Don't remember noticeing it before... but then I don't even remember a yellow Admiral's uniform. Anyone have caps?
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The only time an admiral appeared in a gold uniform. It was wrong and I'm glad it never appeared again. Bad enough the ST:Mag wants to actually believe that admirals should still wear division colors.

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Well, why not? Why should all admirals wear red? Most of the admirals we've seen before were red because most of the time they had something to do with fleets, so it makes sense they'd be red. Toddman was a SF security guy, so he'd be gold. If the head of SF medical was an admiral, they'd probably wear blue.
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It would make sense for the Admirals to still wear division colours. At a meeting of the higher ups it would be useful to be able to tell who is in what division at a glance
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its probably along the lines of the command division color used in the movies. if you are an admiral, you can choose between your true division, or choose the command color (like Saavik's uniform in ST:3).. or possibly you can't wear command colors if you arent certified (would Admiral McCoy wear red or blue?)

anyway, this uniform brings up an ironic point.. another flag officer who didnt wear command colors was Commodore Stone of Starbase 11, he wore an operations/services uniform. and the backgound outside Toddman's window seems purposely designed to replicate the view from Stone's office .. coincidence?

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I noticed that background too, Mike. Though I doubt that too much thought was given to the matching of the location and the uniform colors... but you never know. [Wink]

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The quality is because it's from a DivX rip, not the actual DVD.

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Actually, he was going to a costume party at the Wee Scottsman dressed as Admiral Stone. That explains the uniform.

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I suppose that during staff meetings with many admirals, some division chiefs (starfleet intel in this case mabye) wear division colors.

So he could be gong to or coming from said meeting.

Or he could be in charge of the SCE and they wear uniforms that dont suck as bad as the other admirals.

Something.

Or mabye that harsh sun is color bleaching all his red uniforms..

Whatever the case: anything is better than the pajama top with the gold piping that we saw throught TNG.

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I like the idea of division colour for Admiral. I mean WHY not - he seemed to have a pretty specific role - compared to Admiral et cetera on TNG - who usually was a Command Admiral anyway - like Necheyev or Shanthi. I'd hazard a guess that the Head of Starfleet Corps of Engineers would wear a similar admiral's uniform (If he/she/it was an admiral) as mentioned before like the Head of Starfleet Medical (if he/she/it was an admiral).

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Just to throw it in because someone mentioned it and I thought I would nitpick... Intelligence wears Red, not Gold.

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When did we see anyone specifically from SI?

THere's also "Starfleet Security" as a division (they gave the go-ahead to retrieve the USS Pegasus IIRC).

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Was going to say the same thing - we've never seen anyone from Starfleet Intelligence - and I would have assumed they were the same as Starfleet Security.

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that's what they want you to assume...

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