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Having recently purchased Jackill's Reference Manual Vol. II and Starship Design on eBay (they *should* be on their way to me), I was wondering if there was any structure or method in the madness that is fandom.
First of all, Jackill's manuals seem to be quite rare, because neither Amazon, New Eye or Intergalactic sell them, and the only one on eBay ATM is already at 20+ euros. Should I really be prepared to pay big bucks for the other two volumes? And what about Jackill's datasheets you can buy directly from his site? Are those anything more than 5-views?
The same goes for Guenthers Ships of the Star Fleet series. Amazon lists it but has no used versions of it ATM and New Eye is sold out. I've never seen them on eBay either. So, apparently, quite rare. IIRC, this book introduces many of the Movie-era designs like the Belknap.
And now for an list of books I don't have (yet). I'm looking for descriptions/reviews for these books.
USS Enterprise Officer's Manual (+ Revised) I only know that the original is a spiral-back fan publication. The revised edition apparently was updated to comply with Shane's Guide to the Enterprise.
Starfleet Line Officer Requirements This book is by David Schmidt (fka Treknophile). That's all I know.
Starfleet Dynamics See above. Is it true this book is basically the same as above, but rewritten?
The Federation Reference Series 1-6 Some not very impressive looking datasheets I saw on New Eye's site. Worth anything?
Starfleet Uniform Recognition Manual Almost won this on eBay. Is this worth getting for anything more than 2 dollars?
And then onto the RPGs (SFB, FASA, and uhm.. LUG or something?). I'm not really interested in the game of course, only in the starship designs. Especially the whole Larson/Loknar and Orion Wanderer/Lotus stuff. But I have no idea how these were published, and how rare they are today.
Any big names I've forgotten? I have already got the Spaceflight Chronology, FJ's Manual and Blueprints, the TMP Blueprints, Mandell's Maps (new and old), Shane Johnson's Worlds o/t Federation and Scotty's Guide. And the usual Pocket Books 'official' stuff. Obviously.
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Jackill's Data sheets are alright. I only have one: The Danube Class. IIRC, there wasn't *alot* more than the 5-views. 5 views of the whole ship. 5 views of the ship without the central swappable modules. Silhouettes of the ship side and fore with and without the roll bar pod. Kind of alot fo filler stuff. There was some data info on the ship and the pods too, I remember. I can't speak for the rest of the sheets, cause I never opened them. But they were all black ink on colored paper. This was close to the beginning of DS9, and info on the Danube was still rare, so at the time, the $7 seemed worth it.
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The "Uniform Recognition Guide" by Shane Johnson is not worth very much. I still regret I paid ten Euro for the book. The illustrations in FJ's TM are better, the TWOK era uniforms are also in Shane's Guide to Enterprise and the Klingon uniform was receicled in the Fact Files.
SotSF I and II is very fine I think, I like the presentation and the usage of dropped designs for canon vessels. A bit on the low side is the fact that Star Fleet has too many Heavy Cruisers if one accept the ship list.
As for some FASA and LUG source books, I have recently bought for few money "The Federation" and "Planets of the UFP" -- very interesting references if one likes Star Trek cartography. Only "Way of D'era" is missing to become happy, but I don't intend to pay more than 20 Euro for the book, because I don't know if it is worth the money.
Ah: one last: "USS Khai Tam Technical Manual" completely low standard, fortunately I got it for just one euro...
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Anyone know where any of these reference books can be purchased and shipped internationally? I have never seen any of these on eBay.co.uk.
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All I can advise is to select the option to display worldwide items when searching on ebay.co.uk. But its hard enough finding US sellers that will ship to Canada, let alone overseas.
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Yeah. The obnoxious twats. With Paypal, it's just as easy to do, and it's not like it costs them anything more.
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No one will ship to the pit of scum and villiany that is....Canada.
No one.
I'm amazed that you cant find all that stuff online by now: I've seen almost all the Trek Magazine illustrations online nad most of the FJ stuff as well. I suppose you could get them, scan everything and put it online so the rest of the world would benifit...
As horribly illeagal as that would be.
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Nothing is illegal as long as it serves my needs or wants.
Nothing.
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quote: The same goes for Guenthers Ships of the Star Fleet series. Amazon lists it but has no used versions of it ATM and New Eye is sold out. I've never seen them on eBay either. So, apparently, quite rare. IIRC, this book introduces many of the Movie-era designs like the Belknap.
The first volume is rare. I got it second hand. the second volume is on Amazon.co.uk but it's �4.98 for delivery to western Europe. The second volume is actually rather better IMO. Partly due to the better quality of the presentation (colour coded deck/systems plans).
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quote:The "Uniform Recognition Guide" by Shane Johnson is not worth very much.
Yet it sounds interesting. Could you perhaps post a table of content please?
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