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Harry
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So, I was justing watching DS9's 'Indiscretion', and those scenes with Dukat struck me as being rather strange. I mean, this man actually lead the occupation of Bajor, and is responsible for millions of deaths. And what's more, he practically raped Kira's mother. And yet he was a free man.

Was there ever any reason given for why he wasn't apprehended the moment he ever set foot on Bajoran soil again? Why was he basically free to go whereever he wanted to go? Even the Federation didn't apprehend him after the occupation was over. Surely this goes beyond the 'non-interference' policy of the Federation!

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Probably some kind of quid pre quo agreement; we'll pull out of Bajor if you agree not to prosecute any Cardassian officials. I don't really remember most of what was said about the Cardassian withdrawal though.
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Isn't Dukat's participation re: the Occupation the sort of thing that was never made entirely clear? I mean, sometimes he was just running the station, other times he was in charge of the whole operation.

Also, not remembering the details of the episode you've mentioned; did Dukat ever actually go to Bajor proper before the very end? DS9's jurisdictional status is contested in at least one episode I can think of.

At any rate, the Bajorans were willing to arrest and try other Cardassians, so I don't think any blanket immunity was in place.

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Harry
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DS9 was a Bajoran station, and we know that Odo could arrest people. And he worked for the Bajoran Militia, if I'm not mistaken.

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Sol System
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Yes, but it was leased out to Starfleet, and when Bajor wanted to grab "Gul Dar'heel" there were some complicated legal manuverings.

I mean, there was definitely a lot of cooperation going on, but I think the situation was supposed to be vaguely similar to Guantanamo Bay in this respect.

It would have been very interesting to see some episodes where Bajoran and UFP policy differed to such an extent that the question of who really controls the station came to a head, but here we get into certain of my own probably narrow interests re: Star Trek stories I think would be neat.

On edit: For instance, if Bajor had come to an agreement with the Klingons, and had forbidden Starfleet from using the station to fight them.

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But they wouldn't have gone against the word of the Emissary.

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I think Dukat was probably the last in a long line of heads of the Occupation.
Possibly, he was only in direct control for overseeing the withdrawl.

I'd imagine that the real atrocities were commited under someone else's watch: Dukat's tyranny only extended as far as the station.

I dont think the Bajorans would risk (during the first two seasons anyway) giving the Cardassians an excuse for retaliation by arresting every Cardassian officer they could get their hands on.
Only the big fish- like Gul Dar'heel.

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quote:
But they wouldn't have gone against the word of the Emissary.
This is just silly. Supportable, probably, within the show. But still silly.
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Why, in this hypothetical situation - all we have to go by is a similar situation and that would be the establishment of the non-agression pact with the Dominion by the Bajorans. This was fast-tracked by Sisko as both a Starfleet Captain and the Emissary to the Prophets see "Call To Arms".

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Jason Abbadon
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Yeah, but Sisko had not become an icon to the bajorans back in the first three seasons- after he found B'Halla and had that -very public- vision from the Prophets warning Bajor not to enter the Federation yet, then he could pull whatever stunt he wanted.

He was bigger than Jesus...and the Kai.

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quote:
Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
I think Dukat was probably the last in a long line of heads of the Occupation.
Possibly, he was only in direct control for overseeing the withdrawl.

The show establishes that he was in control of the station for at least a decade, and probably longer. (He's running it when Kira is just a child, according to that episode who's name I forget.) And during that time, he could arbitarily summon people up from Bajor for no obvious reason (other than wanting to shag them).

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Which begs the question... does Dukat like younger women?

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His crush on Kira could be due to a resemblance to her mother...

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A very sick way to continue a relationship might I add...

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True. Although it's probably fairly low down on the list of naughty things that he did.

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