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Hobbes
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How long do Cardassians live? I'm guessing something like Vulcans considering Dukat's age during the occupation when Kira was a child and during the time of DS9.

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Jason Abbadon
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Originally posted by PsyLiam:
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Originally posted by Jason Abbadon:
I think Dukat was probably the last in a long line of heads of the Occupation.
Possibly, he was only in direct control for overseeing the withdrawl.

The show establishes that he was in control of the station for at least a decade, and probably longer. (He's running it when Kira is just a child, according to that episode who's name I forget.) And during that time, he could arbitarily summon people up from Bajor for no obvious reason (other than wanting to shag them).
Exactylt right: he would have been running the station- not overseeing the whole planet.
Enabrin Tain seemed not to even recall who Dukat was when garak brought up his shit list. [Wink]

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PsyLiam
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I wouldn't use anything Tain said as proof of anything though. Or even his reactions, come to that.

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Jason Abbadon
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Yeah, I thought of that-Tain was probably verbally sparring with Garak, but it indicated (to me) that Dukat was not the head honcho for much of the occupation.

I'd imagine that at least a couple of former cardassian overseers (for want of an official title) were killed by resistance or replaced for not being able to eliminate them.

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The title for Dukat during the later years of occupation seemed to be Prefect, that is, the head honcho of the occupation. It would clarify the timeline a bit if his past alluded to in "Wrongs Darker..." was as a somewhat lowlier official, that is, merely a station commander. But I have a gnawing feeling in my gut that the title Prefect was uttered in "Wrongs Darker..".

On a slighthly more lunatic vein, what about saying that the Gul Dukat who sired Tora Ziyal and ruled Bajor until the withdrawal was the *son* of the Gul Dukat who courted Kira Meru a few decades earlier? That would explain the non-aging, and some other inconsistencies as well.

Then again, we could say that all of "Wrongs Darker.." was just another Orb hallucination with little or no basis in reality.

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Jason Abbadon
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Very lunatic theory there.

Cardassians would enjoy the same longivity that Klingons and humans of the same technology level enjoy.

So, Dukat may be over 100 but still only the equivalent of 50 to us.

...and Cardassians may live longer naturally anyway.

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How is it a given that "prefect" = "head of the entire occupation"?
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PsyLiam
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It certainly wasn't true at my school.

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Aban Rune
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The issue of who is really in control of the station seems pretty well established in The Circle trilogy. When it came down to it and Bajor said, "get out", starfleet got.

My guess is that Sisko or Starfleet managed to talk Bajor down from alot of differences in policy, but had it come right down to it, Starfleet would've pulled out, especially had the disagreement come during the Klingon conflict.

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Ah, but, see, the whole "Circle" thing was essentially a local affair. Sure, the wormhole was neat and all, but the Federation can afford to take the long view on some issues.

The Klingon affair, on the other hand, was Big, with the Dominion waiting in the wings.

Anyway, as I said, we saw similar issues arise elsewhere in the show, primarily in "Duet". The Bajorans wanted a dude but couldn't just grab him. I'm not trying to suggest that the Federation was protecting Dukat, incidently. Just saying.

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