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Also, going back to the NX-01, the positions of XO seems to have either grown out of the situation that developed: simply put, there wasn't intended to be one (because Archer didn't have one when he left) but T'Pol, put on the bridge in the purely honourary position of Science Officer, acquired the mantle as a result of her argument with Tucker (when Archer was wounded) over who should take command.
As a result, you have the situation where a Second-in-Command exists, but more in terms of being in charge when the captain's absent, and the rest of the time having other duties such as Science Officer. But, consider:
"The Cage" - Number One occupies one of the two forward consoles, seemingly navigation. But was she the Navigator as well as XO, or was the Helm position still an all-in-one role (a la Mayweather) and that second seat at the fron console was simply the First Officer's Duty Station?
"WNMHGB" - I agree with Mim, Spock is definitely XO but also acts as Science Officer. This situation continues throughout TOS.
TMP - No mention of an official XO. Decker gets given the role after he relinquishes command. He's also briefly Science Officer before Spock turns up - but it's made plain this has nothing to do with him also being First Officer, they're just short-staffed. He's thus the only pure XO until Riker's time.
TOS - no XO position (before Spock assumes the role by relinquishing command) mentioned.
TFF/TUC - Back to normal, Spock is XO & SO.
TNG - XO has become an official position, usually in charge of many of the administrative duties involved in running a starship - crew evaluations and so forth. Riker and Chakotay, for example.
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My idea was that during TOS, any one of the senior officers could double up as XO.
So basically, for TOS, we now have this:
Helm Officer: Sulu.
Navigator: Supernumeraries, Chekov
Security Chief: Giotto
Most of the times, Sulu handled weapons. At least in TFF, the Navigator handled weapons (but that might be because the Helmsman was in custody and the Navigator was once Tactical Officer).
Are there any cases in wich the Navigator fired weapons?
"So the security chief in TOS is not a bridge officer?"
Well, why would he be? The only reason Reed, Worf, Tuvok have bridge positions is because they double as tactical officers. Since Sulu did that on the E-nil, Giotto would have no need to be on the bridge. There was probably a security office where he did his work.
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There was never a set Security Chief in TOS was there? I saw a bit of the start of the episode with Abraham Lincoln coming on board and there was a Security Chief presented to him, along with Scott and Spock.
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That reminds me of the old TOS games by Interplay (25th Anniversary and Judgement Rites) where Sulu goes, "Raising shields!" and Chekov says, "Arming weapons (or maybe it was veapons)" at the touch of a key.
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As for Ops in TOS, Communications seemed to serve a potentially similar purpose of organizing stuff going on across the ship.
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In TNG, the XO always seemed like an amalgamation of the TOS XO duties (runing the ship when the captain isn't present, giving direct command advice etc.), the yeoman's duties (organising personnel, assisting the captain in 'red tape' duties etc.), and some communications duties (stuff going on across the ship, damage reports etc.).
Obviously, Starfleet was streamlining the bridge operations of their ships, as evident with navigation becomeing an appartly computer-assisted job.
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quote:Originally posted by AndrewR: There was never a set Security Chief in TOS was there? I saw a bit of the start of the episode with Abraham Lincoln coming on board and there was a Security Chief presented to him, along with Scott and Spock.
Umm, its only been said 2 or 3 times that there was a Security Chief in TOS.
Two, in fact, were specifically identified as such: Kelowitz and Giotto. However, they only appeared in the Season 1.
As far as TOS Navigators...in "The Corbomite Maneuver" Bailey was coordinating with battle drills and was even told by Kirk: "Mr. Bailey, lock phasers!".
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quote:Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: which (as I know we've discussed before ) doesn't jive with the episode, since Spock wore command colors and Mitchell wore operations colors.
Actually, it does jive with the episode. Unless the definition of "jive" has done a 180 degree turn when I haven't been looking.
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Still what has always bugged me is the lack of enlisted personel in Trek. The only two that I can remember with clarity are Chief DeFalco and of course Chief O'Brian. Does the Big-E have a Chief of the boat so to speak. Who does all the grunt work on the ships. There must be "ordinary seamen" in the ranks. If there is only officers on the ships, my goddess, the academy must mass produce them like Hondas. Opinions, comments?
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There was Simon Tarsas, the medical technician from the E-D. But i would surmise that all those people in uniform without the rank pips are the enlisted (well most of them).
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Roddenberry was of the opinion that all the people in TOS were officers, wasn't he? Big silly man that he is.
There were several people identified in TNG as "crewman", and we can probably assume that they were enlisted.
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) doesn't jive with the episode, since Spock wore command colors and Mitchell wore operations colors. 
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