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Really, the problem with Nemesis (all the TNG movies except Insurrection really) is that they went more for a "big hollywood treatment" instead of starting with a story that would have worked as part of the TNG series but would need a movie budget to pull off.
First Contact was a great movie but Generations and Nemesis really are not.
I dont think there was ever a serious thought given to a Titan movie or series- they would have done more with Riker in Nemesis if there was.
..and really, they should have done more with Riker: with Frakes not directing, they missed a last chance to get Riker out from Picard's shadow.
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Ignoring the Sing along with Data, Klingon acne and floating androids, I liked Insurrection best of the TNG era movies...
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And the god-awful ship battle with E-E going in 50mph straight forward, and two crustacean warships pursuing in 50mph. Firing and returning fire, you know, whenever they feel like it.
Enterprise vs Reliant was two times better.
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I always thought the ship battle was probably edited to death: it seems really choppy.
Probably because we never see what's going on aboard the Son'A battleships.
It's odd that you mention the speed thing: most of the gripes I hear abot the NX-01 is that it's "too agile" and "doesn't move like a capital ship"...fans seem to want lumberinging STII-ish space battles with exceptionally weak-ass weapons at point-blank ranges.
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I think the problem with the Insurrection battle was that it looks like the effects department either ran out of money or ran out of time...or both. Some shots look VERY unfinished (the collector deployment for one) and I'm almost certain that the bit at the end with Picard inside the collector was meant to actually have the blue screen replaced with something...anything would have done. That whole sequence was just stale.
Mind you that movie had plenty of problems, even without the dodgy effects.
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Well I hope they they leave out the manual phalic control in the next one.
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quote:Originally posted by Nim': And the god-awful ship battle with E-E going in 50mph straight forward, and two crustacean warships pursuing in 50mph. Firing and returning fire, you know, whenever they feel like it.
Enterprise vs Reliant was two times better.
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If the manual control was like that of the NX-01 it would have (mabye) worked. The Radio Shack joystick was assinine.
It would have been FAR better to have just has Riker at the touchpad controls for helm.
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I think the Trek franchise should take a break for 5 years to build up the hype, and come back stronger. And get rid of B&B, they are show killers.
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Exactly. Berman in particular is villified as worthlesss when we'd have all likely lost intrest in Roddenberry's version of TNG after another season of such nuggetts as season one produced.
Hate him or not, TNG would not have become as good as it was without him.
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But, is too much a good thing? He may have done a good job ONCE but after more than a decade, his "work" has become stale, trite and uninteresting. Manny Cotto has breathed new life into the "franchise" (I hate that word) and now they are pulling the plug. Maybe Bermaga didn't like the attention that Cotto was getting!?!
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