-------------------- Yes, you're despicable, and... and picable... and... and you're definitely, definitely despicable. How a person can get so despicable in one lifetime is beyond me. It isn't as though I haven't met a lot of people. Goodness knows it isn't that. It isn't just that... it isn't... it's... it's despicable.
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I'm not entirely sure their supposed. . . I refuse to call it a break-up. This is silly.
Anyway, by all accounts yes, some time ago. They've got one on the Generations disc too, which I haven't heard, but which I recall one of our esteemed colleagues describing as remarkably insightful and self-critical.
They seem united in their dislike of "Assimilate this!"
I also thought that, after not having seen the film for awhile, some of the humor seemed a little forced. And it sure jumps into things quickly. Hey, the Borg are attacking. Hey, we destroyed them. Time travel!
Anyway, their commentary track is well worth a listen. They get into a fairly nuanced discussion of the future of the franchise, and what makes a Star Trek story a Star Trek story, and at one point Crisis on Infinite Earths gets brought up, though they cannot remember its name. I haven't listened to Frakes' yet.
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I also haven't seen it in a while, so please remind me when "assimilate this" was? I thought the Arnie line was Data's "Resistance...is futile!".
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When Worf blows up the part of the deflector that all those Borg are standing on. I'm pretty sure there's a T-shirt.
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Hang on, if the writers both hated it who put the line in? God?
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Moore and Braga tried to blame Michael Dorn for that line actually but they couldn't be sure. I heard both of their audio commentaries in Generations and First Contact. It sounds like whatever happened between the two of them is either water under the bridge or a very well organized truce.
I've also watchted the text commentaries by the Okudas in both films and it was rather interesting about all the stuff they knew about the productions like how the Observation Lounge on the E-E is the same setup as the E-D but directly connected to the bridge.
As for the Generations audio comments, they kept making fun of Troi's driving, talked about how the audience acted with the original ending, and of course how Spiner hated cats in real life.
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Original ending? One that involves Kirk's head crushed like a rotten grapefruit, I hope. Mabye one where collectors in the future dig up Kirk and sell his body parts on Ebay for latinum...
How can they blame Michael Dorn for the "Assimilate This!" line? It's not as though he produced/wrote/directed/edited the movie.
Next thing you know they'll be blaming the fans for Enterprise's cancellealtion.
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Specifically, they couldn't recall (or were perhaps just unwilling to say) who had written that line, or whether it might have been improvised. They aren't really blaming anybody. I mean, it is all in a jokey light atmosphere of gentle introspection.
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Actually, they filmed it. Soran shoots Kirk, then drops the phaser and stands there staring google-eyed at the Nexus, wheeupon Picard sneaks up, grabs the phaser and shoots him. All in all, a bit crap.
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