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If they'd reversed the shot or used a different angle then you would've been all "they thought they could fool us by using a different angle, how dare they insult our KBoP related intelligence!"
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At leat there would have been the effort of deception. I could respect that.
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Of course you do:it's all about the skill involved and the effort applied. All fiction (particularly sci-fi) is deception: the best of it makes you forget what you're seeing is not real. The only diffrence between a great movie and the MST3K stuff is the effort applied.
But thats' the same diffrence between a master magician and a cheap coin trick.
Besides, anything new beats nothing- and they gave us nothing new in that scene. I dont mind the 80% re-used footage in WYLB because there is new stuff sprinkled in and creative editing of the old stuff to spice things up.
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Actually, if you look at the WYLB sequences, the old stuff was all clumped together at the top or bottom of a given scene - it seems they were simply short of footage at places and built up the missing time with extras. Not TOO much effort went into it, except for doing stuff like reversing the "Generations" footage of some Klingon getting blown over a console, to make it look instead that he was getting SUCKED out of the same Vor'cha that got rammed by a bunch of battlebugs in the previous year's finale.
Speaking of which, the blowing up of the BoP bridge in "Generations" was pretty good... Though we don't really see the results.
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The Klingon getting sucked out is not reversed. That same shot is used in both "Undiscovered Country" and "Generations." The whole sequence of shots of Klingons in a ship going up in flames is exactly the same from instance to instance.
Granted, the Klingon getting sucked feet first is a great bit of effects work, since he moves laterally and isn't really falling or launching (or at least doesn't appear to be doing either) and I would certainly be tempted to use it again.
I can forgive DS9 for making use of such footage many years after its original use and on their type of budget. I cannot forgive "Generations" for using it one movie later and had a comparable budget.
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