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Apparently Paramount commissioned a little test project to test the feasibility of updating the visual effects of TOS for the early 21st century... I'm not sure if I'd like to see this as an actual production � the 60's effects certainly have their charm � but HOT DAMN, THAT LOOKS AWESOME!
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To provide the obligatory needle for your balloon, I'm sure that we've talked about this before (though I don't remember if there was actual video the last time around), but my first attempts at searching don't seem to turn anything up.
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Oh, I remember that people have discussed the possibility before (here as well, and more recently than 1999, which was before my time here)... I just wasn't aware that they'd actually gone and DONE it. And I'd certainly never seen the actual footage.
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Wait! Is that even from Paramount? I don't see anything in the credits that indicate it is. Yet the guy who did this sure did his homework though, especially on the Constellation. I only regrent that there weren't more shots of the Planet Killer or even a scene where the ships fight it.
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Yes, I remember talking about this before, because I remember making a comment that Paramount should focus more on making ENTERPRISE a better show instead of tweaking an old show that doesn't need to be tweaked.
That said, I agree that the effects look good. However, didn't the guys who made Red Dwarf decide to go back & fix their effects, to lukewarm response?
Unless there were really cool space battles reminiscent of DS9 (which I don't recall TOS ever having), there's really no reason to do this.
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quote:Unless there were really cool space battles reminiscent of DS9 (which I don't recall TOS ever having), there's really no reason to do this.
Well, there's obviously some kick-ass action in "The Doomsday Machine" (which is the linked clip, for those who haven't looked yet). "The Ultimate Computer" could be jazzed up. "Balance of Terror," "Errand of Mercy," "The Enterprise Incident," among others... And that's just the space battles. They could do other cool effects like the flying brain parasites or the giant space amoeba, too.
Hell, maybe they could've CGI'd in some ridged foreheads for all the Klingons.
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I was rather impressed with the shot where Kirk walks infront of the viewscreen, but I didn't like that it showed the screen as a flat image rather than giving it depth.
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That's a perfect example. However, they would almost definitely not do what I would like. Lemme explain...
Question: Why is every other Federation starship in TOS (besides the Constellation) represented by stock footage of the Enterprise? Because TPTB either didn't have the money or the desire to build new models to represent and actual "Star Fleet" made up of ship designs other than the Constitution class.
Now, with updating the FX for "The Ultimate Computer," you could have three totally different vessels representing the three Connies in that ep. (And a new freighter design to represent the Woden/Botany Bay model) Would we all love that? YES!!! ('cause it's Paramount, so it's canon, so to speak). Would that be what they'd do? Probably not. They'd just have the same exact scenes, but in CGI. Big deal.
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I remember seeing this back in '03. I was mildly impressed, but I remember thinking it still needed work. After the job they did on TMP, I'd love to see what Foundation could do to TOS. Digitally match the film grain, proper colour filters, etc.
And give the bloody Constellation a different registry! I'll sacrifice continuity for consistency. Damned Desilu visual effects department couldn't spring for a second model kit... *grumble* I'd be happy with 1717, or 1710. Or heck. Do a little bit of redubbing, the reverse of TNG's "The Battle", and make her the Constitution -- 1700!
Now where'd I put my Nomex long johns...?
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quote:Originally posted by Dukhat: Unless there were really cool space battles reminiscent of DS9 (which I don't recall TOS ever having), there's really no reason to do this.
One potential space battle was in "Errand of Mercy" between Starfleet and the Klingons - although each squared up against each other - neither could fire a weapon.
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quote: That said, I agree that the effects look good. However, didn't the guys who made Red Dwarf decide to go back & fix their effects, to lukewarm response?
Yeah, although that was in part due to the somewhat less than convincing nature of mid-90s CGI (at least on Red Dwarf's budget) compared to the original model shots. They also went back and changed some of the dialogue, as well as the design of the ship. All the DVD releases are of the original version AFAIK, although series VIII uses the CGI version of the Dwarf.
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I think the new CG would be interesting to see in Balance Of Terror ..
Dunno if Paramount would invest the $$ tho' in something like this.. TOS in syndication is still popular in its current form; why fix something that isn't broken..
Could it bring some Trek fan back to rehash the old ones again? Maybe.. I still record them and watch them daily .. but i would certainly love to see them 'refurbished'.
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