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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Yes. But either one is perfectly acceptable.

Earth, Terra, Sol III, etc...
Quo'nos, Kling, Klingon, the Klingon Homworld, etc...
Vulcan, Vulcanis, etc...
Andor, Andoria, etc...

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I still want to meet whoever thought "Kling" was a good idea, and shake their hand.

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I take it you mean the reference in 'Heart of Glory' to the "Traitors of Kling"?

Kling was never given a specific meaning ... it could be like the "Heroes of Bastogne" or something similar. Kling could be the site of a famous battle in ancient Klingon history ...

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Kling: The site of a historic battle involving Klingons on the rim of a black hole in Uranus. It was a bloody battle...a bloody battle indeed.

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I always liked to think Kling wasn't a place, but a badly-translated Klingon term for Klingons in general. A Klingon saying "the traitors of Kling" would be like a human saying "the traitors of Man".
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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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I think Kling is a good name for the Klingons' home planet. At the time the episode was filmed, that's what the term was supposed to refer to. And, for what it's worth, the Starfleet Headquarters star chart from "Conspiracy" (TNG) shows it as Kling as well.

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Its Qo'noS.. not Quo'noS.
The Klingon Q is rarely (if ever) followed by a u

Thats how Elmer Fudd would say it

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You could stick Kronos on there too, even if it is just a more readable version of Qo'noS.

"I think Kling is a good name for the Klingons' home planet."

Indeed. Please Mim, if you have any children, let your wife pick the names.

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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Well, really. If you have places called Andor and Tellar, then why does Kling sound out of place? Klingons----Kling. Saying Kling sounds silly is like saying 'Klingons' or 'Klingonese' sound silly. It's all from the same base word. Qo'nos was pulled out of somebody's ass. Kling actually makes sense considering that the people that come from there are called Klingons.

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Yes, and we Humans live on Huma.

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And the winner is Snay!

Lets review what we've learned today, kids:

  • Klingon is a cool name for the Klingons. It doesnt sound silly at all.
  • Kling is a stupid name for a planet
  • Kronos is the name of their homeworld, which has no similarity to the name of their people
  • Human is a cool name for Humans
  • Huma would be a stupid name for our planet
  • Earth is the name of our homeworld, even though it is a completely dissimilar to our name for our planet. Not to say that we did this without precedent.. the Klingons have also gotten away with it.

But the Mim kid thinks that wouldnt make any sense?

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Well, in fairness to MIM ... humans are also known as "Terrans" and Earth as "Terra"

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Yeah, but where's Andor(ia)?

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So, just to be fair, should we declare that "Kronosian" is a valid alternative to "Klingon", and just no-one says it?
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Not to extend this into the realm of scary people who are scary, but isn't Klingon a closest-fit English version of the actual name in Klingon?
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