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Lee
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Yeah, but first they meet Ferengi without knowing who they are, next they meet Romulans without knowing what they look like. It's clumsy and lazy, as Andrew said.

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Well, the spoilers are out now for the first act (and snippets of act 2) of "Acquisition" - check out TrekWeb. Doesn't seem as if there's anything objectionable there as far as contiuity goes, nor anything dramatically unsound. Of course, whether the episode is enjoyable or not won't be revealed on the basis of the first act alone.

Some observations, though. We're apparently going to get un-subtitled alienspeak here, which I like a lot. But the script also seems to have moments where we'd need subtitles to understand what's really going on. I wonder how the final version will turn out.

Also, the Ferengi may be old hats in this space piracy business, but they are still impressed by the propulsion technology of the NX-01. Which may cause a few eyebrows to rise among those of us who think the Ferengi got their own warp drive by buying it ("Little Green Men"). Did they buy upgrades, or how did their warp tech keep apace with Earth's later on? Or were the Ferengi actually capable of improving on the tech once they had bought it, dispelling yet another stereotype about them?

There's some dialogue about how the Ferengi find the humans alien-looking, but since that's not subtitled we can probably ignore it (some of the "translations" provided in the script are obviously faulty anyway, as if a different person wrote the Ferengispeak and the supposed translations). Since about 99% of the galaxy's humanoid species look pretty much like humans and unlike Ferengi, that piece of dialogue isn't very plausible. Or is NX-01 really the first alien ship to be plundered by the Ferengi?

No mention of the "Last Outpost" style energy whips in the script, which I don't consider a big loss. I wonder if the "rifle" mentioned there will be the one the Ferengi used in "The Magnificent Ferengi" (also seen in Romulan hands in "Improbable Cause"/"The Die is Cast", however)?

The ship we're going to see will not be a Marauder, that much is sure - there's only a four-man crew there. It could be the TNG-era Ferengi pod, though. That would minimize the continuity problems, since Picard would not have seen such a pod in the Battle of Maxia nor in "The Last Outpost", and thus couldn't connect the ships he did see with the Ferengi EVEN if he had had some dusty 200-yr-old reports for bedtime reading recently. And I have no problem with the Ferengi using the same ship designs for several centuries - it just supports the idea that they bought the tech in the first place and aren't too interested in upgrades unless they bring profit.

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Lee
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Good analysis. I don't remember the Romulans using the Ferengi rifles (which, if it were in IC/TDiC, would have been the first appearance, earlier than TMF, and therefore they're more likely to be Romulan rifles, surely?), but I know they cropped up as other alien weapons in the Delta Quadrant. In the ep where the Voyager crew have dreams about fighting some alien war, "Memorial" was its name, or something like that. . .

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I wonder if they are going to try and 'copy' the style of Ferengi language heard in "Little Green Men"?

And are they going to be wearing furs like the Season 1 TNG Ferengi? Or were those Ferengi just wearing them because they were poor?

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Furs might be a dress used by the Ferengi military (would "Merchant Marine", be a better term?), and not by pirates. My thoughts.

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There had probably been a sale on furs in Ferengi space in 2363. However they were cheaply made and didnt hold up well for wearing. They tried to retuyrn them but, well, no refunds you know.

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Earlier spoilers said the energy whips were making a trumphant return, actually.

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And this is why I am reserving my opinions about Enterprise until I see the entire first season.

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"Furs might be a dress used by the Ferengi military...and not by pirates."

There's a difference?

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Here's a tidbit that some people seem to have forgotten, from "Balance of Terror" --

The reason no one knew what the Romulans looked like was because they did not have visual transmission technology at the time!

Oops... did they have the usual viewscreen just the same as all the other shows? [Roll Eyes]

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Again, where on earth does this come from? Spock says that there was no visual communication between Earth (and allies) and Romulan forces. How does this equate to them being unable to communicate, rather than being unwilling?
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Besides, how patently stupid is the idea that visual communications will be impossible in 150 years? I suppose people would want us to believe that every webcam got atomized in World War III or something.

[ March 15, 2002, 19:00: Message edited by: The_Tom ]

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Wasn't it that the Romulans couldn't communicate visually?

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I'm pretty sure there was no indication of what was and was not possible. Merely what was actually done.
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So much for being a "Master of Detail" ... [Smile]
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