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Well, I guess the whole Gary Mitchell thing is looking a little bit more credible, since we've got a character whose haircut is suspiciously similar to Elizabeth Dehner's in "Where No Man Has Gone Before". (Then again, that might be old news. I haven't been keeping up.)
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The blonde does look very much like Elizabeth Dehner; makes sense considering Cumberbatch is supposedly Gary Mitchell.
The IDW comic series has been running issues where they re-do TOS episodes with the JJ cast; WNMHGB was the first run they did. Dehner cancelled her transfer just before the Enterprise left on its mission to the barrier and conveniently wasn't on the ship. Mitchell was left on Delta Vega as in the episode and was supposedly killed by Kirk and Spock; they didn't specifically show his death, however.
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quote:Originally posted by Malnurtured Snay: So: is that the Enterprise crashing into the San Francisco bay?
No, it's another ship. You can tell by the fact that the nacelle struts curve outward instead of inward; it has no secondary hull to speak of, and the nacelles look like a miniature version of the Sovereign class.
quote:Originally posted by akb1979: That's what I thought, since a previous part of the trailer showed it rising from an ocean.
No, that's another ship as well. The nacelles are not on struts, and there's no saucer section. It almost looks like an amphibious craft to me.
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Upon reflection, I might be mistaken. I thought the whole thing rising out of the water was a ship, but looking again I think it's just two nacelles. It could be the Enterprise. But the ship crashing into the water definitely isn't.
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In a sense it's as though they've combined the characters of Gary Mitchell and Khan, which might explain some of the conflicting rumours (I could've sworn earlier in the year Trekmovie 'confirmed' that the villain was Khan?).
So now the movie opens with Mitchell feeling aggrieved that he was left for dead on a planet by Kirk, at some point he steals another Starfleet ship and there may even be an almost literal submarine battle.
The Enterprise crew is being commended for apprehending Gary Mitchell and Admiral Pike has just finished the speech, the camera pulls away as if to go to end credits.
Suddenly, a thunderous sound is heard from above, a giant portal clears away the clouds from the Earth's atmosphere above the San Fransisco bay.
A giant ship crashes downward into the bay and into buildings along the coastline, nearly hitting the Golden Gate Bridge.
The water and dust settles, the camera pans forward slowly, revealing the hull letters:
U.S.S. ENTERPRISE NCC-1701-E
A few notes of the TNG theme are mixed into the score.... then silence...
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You can see "NCC-1701" on the nacelle of the ship rising out of the water. But I think the crashing ship is different.
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The Enterprise crew is being commended for apprehending Gary Mitchell and Admiral Pike has just finished the speech, the camera pulls away as if to go to end credits.
Suddenly, a thunderous sound is heard from above, a giant portal clears away the clouds from the Earth's atmosphere above the San Fransisco bay.
A giant ship crashes downward into the bay and into buildings along the coastline, nearly hitting the Golden Gate Bridge.
The water and dust settles, the camera pans forward slowly, revealing the hull letters:
U.S.S. ENTERPRISE NCC-1701-E
A few notes of the TNG theme are mixed into the score.... then silence...
Pan to a black and white image of Gene Roddenberry as a silent tear rolls down his cheek.
Black.
Credits.
There, I fixed it for you.
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I have a weird feeling that he's Khan. Super strength, lack of glowing eyes or telekinesis (at least on the preview), and a thirst for vengence that Gary Mitchell historically lacked. Seems to be calculating and intelligent. He's even talking like him; and I wouldn't be surprised if JJ pulled a fastball like that.
Still a lot of holes in this theory obviously.
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The Enterprise crew is being commended for apprehending Gary Mitchell and Admiral Pike has just finished the speech, the camera pulls away as if to go to end credits.
Suddenly, a thunderous sound is heard from above, a giant portal clears away the clouds from the Earth's atmosphere above the San Fransisco bay.
A giant ship crashes downward into the bay and into buildings along the coastline, nearly hitting the Golden Gate Bridge.
The water and dust settles, the camera pans forward slowly, revealing the hull letters:
U.S.S. ENTERPRISE NCC-1701-E
A few notes of the TNG theme are mixed into the score.... then silence...
Pan to a black and white image of Gene Roddenberry as a silent tear rolls down his cheek.
Black.
Credits.
There, I fixed it for you.
ROTFL. Yes. This.
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I'm thinking that they combined gary Mitchell and Kahn- some bright light finds Gary Kahn in a suspended animation pod, awakens him and he uses his vast mental powers to make thhe Dark Knight Returns poster a reality, because why the fuck not, right? It's what I'd do, honestly.
This was posted over at SSM and it looks like a good observation to me:
quote: Didn't we read somewhere that Zach Quinto was not going to fill his 3-film contract and would back out? The scene shown here could be a nod to the original TWoK film and a way for ZQ to back out of the film...
So they're rollng up as much shit as possible into a loose STII framework...(facepalm)
Maybe we'll get a real treat and, after Starfleet is destroyed, the Romulans will show up to take over Earth afterwards- after all, they know their star is fucked right...I mean, eric Bana's character from the first movie did think to tell them, right?
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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Cumberbatch's character is called "John Harrison", and one of the trashed buildings you see him at in the trailer is on Qo'noS. We're going to see much more of the klingons, and they'll have a more TMP/TOS-ish look.
I'm getting some very good feelings about this.
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