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Aethelwer
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I'm not sure if I hear a gutteral noise...there does seem to be a nasal, though...

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Fructose
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When I say consistent I mean where ever you go, every word means the exacy same thing and is used exactly the same everywhere. And to me this analysis is like looking at a nail and trying to determine what the building looks like that it came from. I'm not harping on you guys, it's just that what you picked doesn't exactly lend itself to analysis.

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Aethelwer
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Well, if the nail has green paint on its head, maybe the building is painted green! See?

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June is National Accordion Awareness Month.
"Trekkies like to claim that Star Trek is 'hard science fiction'...in some extreme cases, they even go so far as to claim that it's all technologically feasible! Do they say this because they've analyzed the events of Star Trek for scientific accuracy? Not a chance - most of them don't know a coulomb from a joule, or the difference between Young's Modulus and Dave's burger special." - Mike Wong

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TSN
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fructose: No-one is attempting to reconstruct the entirety of the Dominion language from this. It's just an analysis of what each word in this sentence probably means.

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Ok, have a blast. Didn't mean to spoil the fun.

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Jim Phelps
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This is the sentence as rendered in the script:

WEYOUN
Eee-ja maa'na hoo'va-baa'li
jen'ku'rada sen'to.

Boris



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Aethelwer
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Wow. Thanks. That seems to be phonetic, unfortunately, with the triple e's at the beginning and so on.

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*listens to the audio again* There's definitely an extra syllable between the first two words there. An 'n' plus a vowel...

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Jim Phelps
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The actor seems to have forgotten that only "maa'na" is supposed to have a na at the end, and not "Eee'ja" also. Looks like a case of unconscious rhyming which the director didn't want to correct (and why should he?).

We could explain this by postulating that whenever Eeeja is followed by a word that ends on na, the pronounciation is changed to Eee'ja'na. Sorta like the French "nous" which is usually pronounced without the "s" -> "noo", but not when the following word starts with a vowel (as in nous allons, where nous sounds like "noose").

Boris

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Sol System
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This is a bit off topic, but did anyone else find it odd that Weyoun, genetically engineered to be the perfect diplomat, would not also be designed to be a natural linguist? I would think that being able to converse with your counterpart in their own language would give you tremendous advantages.

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Shik
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Bad eyes, good ears, no aesthetics, & no flair for linguistics. Heh...

Maybe everything Weyoun would say in English without the translator would be heavily tainted by his accent & thei render him idiotic-sounding. Y'know...kinda like people from Arkansas going to Belgium & asking where "oon piss-wahr" is.

Heh...the Vorta: "Redneck trash of the Dominion!!"

Oh, yeah: they sure as hell like their apostrophic glottal stops. Wonder if that's the Founders' native tongue or some kind of "Dominion Esperanto" they devised in case someone noticed the language similarities to the "changleings of lore"....

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Sol System
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I don't think the Founders have a native spoken language. Why would they?

And that situation, Shik, is sort of what I'm talking about. Surely the Dominion has the expertise to make the Vorta perfect polyglots?

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"Twentieth century go and sleep.
Really deep. We won't blink
Your eyes are burning holes through me.
I'm not scared I'm outta here.
I'm not scared. I'm outta here.
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R.E.M.
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Read chapter one of "Dirk Tungsten in...The Disappearing Planet"! Please?


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Fabrux
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Actually, Boris, it's more like "nooz" in "nous allons"

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