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As to why it'd be a Vulcan proverb when it relates to American history must be a joke the writer thought was funny.
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I wonder... When Spock said once that one of his ancestors once said "When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth", did he mean that some Vulcan said that, or that he's related to Arthur C. Doyle?
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Nixon opened up relations between the US and China whereas Kirk and company were going to open up relations between the Federation and the Klingons.
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You're probably correct. Sometimes the most vocal opponent is the first olive branch, as Kirk is, here.
I will point out however that "Only Nixon can go to China" is NOT the actual proverb. It's only a translation made by Spock to cast relevance to Earth history. Otherwise the proverb isn't that old anyway. This is probably a proverb from very ancient Vulcan philosophy.
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TSN: He said that to Valaris (sp.?) correct? By "ancestors" he probably meant that he is half-human.
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Very intersting. Like, if an organization starts a very important experiment or project, they put the one least willing to do it in charge, so that he won't be blinded by hopes, enthusiasm or optimism, but instead falls back on his professionalism. And most important, he won't hesitate to abort or take measures should anything go wrong.
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I suspect that the "Nixon" quote may have originated with Henry Kissenger, who was Nixon's secretary of state. As pointed out earlier, Nixon was a staunch anticommunist and veteran communist hunter from the 1950s. As a result he would not have been accussed of being "soft on communism" if he went to China. In contrast, someone who had a history of being more open to friendly relations with the Soviets and the Chinese or advocated pulling out of the war in Vietnam, such as George McGovern, would have been accussed of groveling to the Chinese.
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Actually, Tim, Nixon would come right after McCarthy as the most unlikely. He was Joe Mac's right-hand-man, wasn't he?
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