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Saiyanman Benjita
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This is the only place I can think to post this. My wife and I were watching that episode of Star Trek (TOS, by the way), and noticed something odd. Kirk's headstone for his grave said "James R. Kirk"

Has anyone noticed that? We all know that he refers to himself as "James T. Kirk" and we know that T stands for Tiberius. But what's with the continuity error, or am I just being too picky?

If you haven't seen it, see it for yourself. It really does say "R"

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One of the more famous errors. However, many people prefer to blame the guy who made the stone (within the context of the episode) rather than the people who made the episode.
go figure.

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Omega
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It's also possible that Kirk didn't like the name "Tiberius," and told everyone his middle name was Robert for a while.

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Nim
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Klingon cruiser, this is Bobby Kirk here, captain of the Enterprise. State youraaaahh!!! Shields! Shields, damn you!! *KABOOM*

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Malnurtured Snay
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IIRC, "Where No Man..." was one of the first TOS episodes made with Kirk & Co, had they even established he was James T yet?

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Spike
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IIRC the first mentioning of Tiberius was in ST:TUC.

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Malnurtured Snay
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Yeah, but I think they established the middle initial as "T" during the series sometime

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James Robert Kirk? James RUPERT Kirk, now that would be funny. Definitely not the sort of name you'd let your enemy know about.
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First of Two
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There's an unofficial (but kind of neat) explanation for the "R" in the "Brother's Keeper" trilogy from Pocket books, "R" standing for a nickname in-joke between Kirk and Gary Mitchell from their Academy days.

I forget just what the R stands for, though.

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WNMHGB was the first episode w/ Kirk. That's why they hadn't come up w/ the 'T' yet. So, technically, 'R' was his originally established middle initial, and the 'T' was the continuity error. It just happens to be the one that stuck.

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PsyLiam
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I seem to remember that at that time, Gene actually DID have his name down as James Robert Kirk. He just forgot when it came to a later episode, or the writer wasn't nitpicky enough to have checked every frame of the pilot, and just used "T" because it sounded better.

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Middle names starting with the letter T are a Roddenberry trademark, of course.

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Malnurtured Snay
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James T. Kirk
William T. Riker

Anyone else, 'cuz I can think of any ...

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Michael Dracon
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L's are used often as well:

B'Ellana L. Torres
Benjamin L. Sisko

Also both the names Eugene (Thomas Eugene Paris) and Wesley had to be used as well.

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Since when does twice constitute often?

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