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Yeah, I just popped it in to check. Coulda sworn he was Lt. Commander, but I guess that would be Lt. Commander Kyle.
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As it was pointed out above, there wasn't a Lt. Commander pin at the time. Which means that Chekov, Commander "Let's give them a few more minutes" and Kyle were all full Commanders. Kinda puts Voyager's rank distribution to shame, don't it?
But my question still stands - was Chekov ever distinctly mentioned as the First Officer on the Reliant? He barely had a chance to ACT as one before Khan and his stooges took it over...
Mark
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Yes. He made a ship's log and identified himself as the First Officer.
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And Kyle was obviously the Communications officer. The yellow-collared Branch may have been the chief Helmsman (those generally have had high ranks), or perhaps the chief Engineer (who, like Scotty, might sometimes come up to the bridge to take command when the ship is in standard orbit and the Captain and his XO are down below).
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Captain Terrel -- CO Commander Pavel Chekov -- First Officer Lt. Commander Kyle -- Chief Engineer (assuming he's a Lt. Commander and not a full Commander)
What about Beech? Anyone see his rank pin?
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Data was addressed as "Commander" quite a bit ... just because someone is addressed as a "Commander" doesn't mean they're not a lieutenant commander.
Just as Worf and LaForge were always called "lieutenant" in the first season of TNG, not "lieutenant junior grade"
I have a hard time believing they were ALL full Commanders.
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quote:Data was addressed as "Commander" quite a bit ... just because someone is addressed as a "Commander" doesn't mean they're not a lieutenant commander.
True, but in Kyle's case we've a visual evidence, that he was a full commander.
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Of course, we also had visual evidence that Valaris was a lt commander...
For a completely arbitary reason, I hold the movie ranks pins as less "definite" than the TNG or TOS ones, simply because they are harder to identify in a snap (and they take a lot longer to figure out. Pretty much everyone can guess the TNG ranks after one episode).
(Baring Admirals, obviously.)
(And NCO's.)
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That's cuz Valeris was supposed to be Saavik. IMNSHO, ST VI was one giant clusterf**k... From the mess with Valeris to the size of the E-A bridge to the general decor of both ships... Yeesh.
--Jonah
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Valeris' costume was "off the rack". At a convention once, Kim Cattrall said the only actual new bit of clothing she got was pants, since she insisted on that much. The shirt and jacket were probably just whatever fit her best from what they had. So the rank insignia and the gray uniform-colour was an "error" of the costume department.
Same thing with Colonel West. He wore the uniform of a vice admiral.
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What was wrong with the decor of the two ships?
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Now, see, that just kind of blows. I mean it's a motion picture, for Pete's sake. Did they really think that noone would be paying attention?
"Well, it's only the 6th movie in the series. Noone is really paying attention to detail stuff yet anyway. Just grap a jacket from wardrobe and put it on her. I guess she's insisting on new pants, though. Prima dona."
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