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STVI is the best of the series, in my opinion. I loved the fact that you got to see so much of the workings of the ship (something that also spiced up Insurrection). And the bridge wasn't THAT large - no more so than the original TOS bridge. To completely damn the film just because it doesn't conform to some little fanboy idea of how the ship should be just seems silly.
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I object because the bridge set neither fits in nor matches in structure the exterior model -- even though they managed it in the first four movies. If it had been inconsistent throughout, I wouldn't have had as much of a problem as I do with them building a new set that is wrong, when the old one wasn't.
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So they moved the turbolifts. Big deal. It was set 7 years after STV, a lot could have happened between then & "now." Besides, maybe they had a similar arrangement to on the E-D, with a spare turbolift to the side, and they just swapped. Try to keep things in perspective: not liking a few cosmetic changes to one set does not mean you should completely condemn a film.
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They might HAVE moved the turbos, but they didn't change the shape of the exterior on the filming miniature to reflect that. The size and shape of the V and VI bridge does not fit within the existing model.
And that ISN'T the only reason VI is not my favorite (actually, it ranks at number four or five on my heirarchy). The only reason I keep going on about it is because it feels like my points are being dismissed completely without consideration. I am not a wierdo fanboy. I am not some hyper-anal no-life techie dweeb. Call me crazy, but I think it ISN'T too much to ask that the people working on this property we all love so well actually pay attention to such trivial matters as whether or not a set will fit within the physical constraints imposed by the model that's been in existence for over a decade previous -- and if it doesn't, altering the model to allow for the changes.
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Relax, Perrychops. No-one's getting at you. Just, unclench, dude. It's only a movie. 8)
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And besides, if you were being a COMPLETE fanboy, Ultra Magnus would have done his stuff by now. 8)
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qoute: ----------- They might HAVE moved the turbos, but they didn't change the shape of the exterior on the filming miniature to reflect that. The size and shape of the V and VI bridge does not fit within the existing model. -----------
Exactly how were they supposed to change that on the exterior? As far as I can recall we never see any exterior views where we can see where the turbolifts going.
KK
BTW weren't Spock an XO and had a Captains rank in STV and STVI?
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Not much to add, really - they changed the inside of the bridge, but they didn't change the outside. While the physical model didn't have any protrusions to indicate where the turbolifts came up, the physical set (including the aft airlock) matched the dome quite closely. In ST5 and 6, the new set would move the trubolifts to the sides, where they'd be sticking out from the dome.
Mark
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Pressman mentions that the "incident" (or: mutiny) occured 12 years prior.
This episode aired mid-way during the 7th season, so what this means is that Will Riker was an ensign aboard the Pegasus five & a half years before he became XO of the Enterprise.
Does that seem like a really short time to anyone?
Riker had been on Pegasus for seven-months, straight out of the Academy when the mutiny happened. Presumeably, he was promoted to Lt (jg) afterwards.
So, in five and a half years, he rose in rank to Commander and serving on a starship in his second assignment as XO (his first being the Hood). He'd also passed up a command!
Assuming Riker was 22 when he graduated the Academy, this means he was 27 or 28 when he joined the Enterprise crew, and 35 during Pegasus. Now, this may strike me as odd, but I always pegged Riker as being early-to-mid thirties when the show first began.
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The Encyclopedia puts his graduation from the Academy in 2357 (pretty much matching the "twelve years"), and his birth in 2335. So, he was 22 when he graduated, and he was 29 when he started on the E-D.
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Interesting comparison to Stewart, who was ten years younger than his character...
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