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I wonder if they'll even have a transporter ...
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Probably not.
Might I note that the whole "6th starship" thing probably only applies to STARFLEET ships. This may not even BE a Starfleet ship, but something along the lines of Masao's UES Enterprise.
Or maybe they're stealing a page from "Yamato" & equipping the carrier with a wave motion gun at the bow & a new type of propulsion that turns tubine engine drive energy into Newtonian rocket thrust.
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quote:The only good thing I can see coming out of this series is the short skirt uniform of all starfleet female personall!
If they use the TOS-uniforms, this would be the first strike against continuity. Either they use the uniforms from "The Cage" (then female personnel wear trousers) or something "new".
My first impression after reading this was %$�&#. But now I think this concept has some interesting points:
No Borg-stories
The producers/writers are forced to look at continuity, or many fans will hate the series. For example: T'Pau's rank. She's a subcommander. So this doesn't contradict that Spock was the first vulcan in Starfleet.
It seems that the relationship between Humans and Vulcans is not the best. Would be nice to see how they became friends.
Space is big and undiscovered.
Maybe we'll see first contacts with Andorians, Tellarits, Tholians, Klingons...
I think this era was a hard time for the Federation. Would be interesting to see, how the UFP manages the starting problems.
I totally forgot about first contact with the Klingons! Do we have any idea of how that happened? I heard a story about a first-contact where the Federation gave them a lot of technology, and the Klingons just went wild with it ... leading to the establishment of the Prime Directive. Not sure if that's canon or not, but still ...
It'd be kind of cool to show this Enterprise crew mucking stuff up like that ...
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Is a canon date given for Klingon first contact?
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I don't want to blow my own trumpet - after all, only UM is limber enough to do that - but I'd like to refer you to my thread Series 5 Tech - If Pre-TOS. You know, all the way back from when it was assumed I was some newbie who didn't know what he was talking about. Nyah. 8P
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I would also like to point out that I said "prequel" and "Enterprise" a few weeks ago as well. Ahem.
But, Vorgon, you mean you're not a newbie who doesn't know what he's talking about?*
*-This should be taken as a joke as I know VP is really some mysterious poster known as "Lee" and he did something "really bad" but what that was I have no desire to learn so I'm going to shut up now.
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Actually, I've always been fascinated w/ Pre-TOS, if they pull it off, with no silly-willy jumpsuit uniforms, it could be moderately somewhat not terrible. IMHO, they had better show the Battle of Axanar. That could be mighty sweet (though the writers probably don't even remember the reference)
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At other forums there seems to be a lot of skepticism about this casting sheet. Wasn't T'Pau the vulcan matriarch in Amok Time? Also, wasn't Spock the first Vulcan in Starfleet. "Phlox" was also mentioned as a character on Voyager ("Tinker,...") (This is second hand info). They also pointed out the weirdness of characters, albeit minor characters, named Tos, Willam, Leonard, and Forrest. Are clever in-jokes or clumsy references or hints that this is fake?
"Hoshi" as a Japanese woman's first names seems a bit strange, but "hoshi" is the Japanese word for "star."
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With the rank of Sub-Commander? Since when has Sub-Commander been a Starfleet rank? Really, the people making that argument need to read what they're bashing first. No she's not a member of Starfleet, she's a Vulcan science officer (that is, a member of Vulcan's space-going fleet), who happens to be serving as Science Officer aboard the Enterprise. I'd say T'Pau is as much a member of Starfleet as Major (or Colonel) Kira Nerys was. And yes, I'd say she's the same T'Pau we'd later see in both Amok Time and Star Trek III: The Search for Spock. Remember: Vulcans live a VERY long time.
There was an "Ensign Janeway" in an episode of The Next Generation, but did people use that to bash the concept of Voyager as fake when the captain's name was introduced as Janeway? (Keep in mind: it was originally going to be Elizabeth or Nicole Janeway, and was changed when Bujold left). So the simple fact that "Phlox" has been used before doesn't hold much water, I 'spect. Also: these things change, just because the dude's name is Phlox know doesn't mean it will be when the show goes to air. Remember: Julian Bashir was originaly Julian Amorros.
So what about the Comm Officer's name? I know a couple of girls named "Crystal", I don't see whats so strange about someone named "Star"!
Yes, I would say Admirals Forrest, Leonard, and Cmdr. Williams are a "tip o' the hat" to the "big three" of TOS. And that yes, even Tos the Vulcan is another tip of the hat. This is nothing new: Gene Roddenberry named "Geordi LaForge" after a Trek fan! Keep in mind, those four characters above are slotted for the pilot only, then they're gone and we probably don't see them again. And those names could well be changed, although I think Admiral Forrest needs to STAY Admiral Forrest in tribute to DeForrest, who sadly died.
And did anyone notice that these characters are named in the opposite rank order from the characters? Cmdr. Williams = Will Shatner (who played Kirk), is the lowest rank; Adm. Leonard = Leonard Nimoy (Spock), is the middle rank of the three; and Adm. Forrest = DeForrest (who played McCoy, lowest ranked of the 3), is the highest Admiral in Starfleet!
Those arguments don't mean anything, and they're not proof that this info isn't valid. They're just nitpicking, a lot of which don't hold up to anything. I mean, christ, who the devil mistakes sub-commander for a Starfleet rank? Good god!
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I'm not saying this is fake, I'm just saying we should be skeptical. Until it's confirmed that casting directors are actually using this thing, it's still possible this is fake.
If this T'Pau is the same T'Pau in Amok Time, that might be cool. The Romulan-style rank suggests she's only attached to this ship without being in Starfleet, which is a way around the "first-Vulcan" thing. That might work.
As for Hoshi, this name was suggested by others as a reason this casting sheet was fake. I was suggesting it was a possible woman's name, albeit unusual. At least it's better Japanese than "Sulu"
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