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Malnurtured Snay
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Negotiations happen often during War. I guess you decided to ignore the references to the fact that the war was still going on, huh?

Or why Worf was setting up a surveillance post when he was supposed to be Ambassador?

Sheeesh.

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I wouln't say that anyone who has ceased to post every time you rant has "realized that they couldn't win" Omega. It's more like "oh, great he comes Mr. conservative frontal lobotomy boy who only hits one note over and over and over and over..."
-Jay, July 15, 2000



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In Insurrection, Troi says she's never kissed Riker with a beard before, but "Violations" or whatever the episode was where everybody was getting mind-raped clearly shows her memories of doing just that. Not to mention the fact that she kissed Thomas Riker...kind of the same thing.

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Or, in "Coda," Janeway's father has an early-TNG admiral's uniform but a post-TNG commbadge.

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Malnurtured Snay
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In "Tin Man", Data says there are no known natural phenomena capable of warp travel.

He forgot the Silicon Entity already?

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I wouln't say that anyone who has ceased to post every time you rant has "realized that they couldn't win" Omega. It's more like "oh, great he comes Mr. conservative frontal lobotomy boy who only hits one note over and over and over and over..."
-Jay, July 15, 2000



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Jeff K: What refereces are you talking about? The only thing that was said was the Sona HAD been producers of Ketracel White.

And do you really think the Dominion was negotiating with the Federation DURING the war, at the same time they were decimating the Federation....come on be real.

And don't use some WWII analogy as it doesn't apply to what was shown onscreen in DS9 (i.e. the Dominion didn't appear to be interested in any type of negotiations)

"Or why Worf was setting up a surveillance post when he was supposed to be Ambassador?" That by the way is the point of my earlier post.

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quote:
And do you really think the Dominion was negotiating with the Federation DURING the war, at the same time they were decimating the Federation....come on be real.

Yes, I found this to be very odd indeed. However, is this any more odd than Starfleet assigning one of its top-of-the-line Sovereign class ships to a routine duck-blind research mission in the middle of a huge war? Or even the fact that Starfleet has the time to conduct research missions when in a few months there might not even BE a Starfleet?

Star Trek: Insurrection would have been more believable if it had taken place after the war, not during.

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Malnurtured Snay
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Clearly, that's because the war is still going on.

I don't know if you're aware of this, but there was a cut line that had Picard asking Worf "how is your wife?" Since Jadzia died at the end of DS9 Season Six, Insurrection would've taken place during DS9's Sixth Season -- before the end of the war.

Often times two warring parties will be negotiating with each other. The representatives for the US and Vietnam were negotiating in Paris while the "war" was going on. It's not an unheard of thing for two parties to be at war with each other and holding discussions. Besides which, the Female Changeling surrender unconditionally. What was there to negotiate?

The only explanation is that the war is still going on. There is no time in "WYLB" after the war but before Worf becomes Ambassador for him to slip away to install a sensor post. Face it: the flick takes place during the War.

Speaking of which, is that Bolian at the diplomatic reception the same one from DS9's The Forsaken?

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I wouln't say that anyone who has ceased to post every time you rant has "realized that they couldn't win" Omega. It's more like "oh, great he comes Mr. conservative frontal lobotomy boy who only hits one note over and over and over and over..."
-Jay, July 15, 2000



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A cut line from the movie is your reference and I get a SHEEESH!!!


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Malnurtured Snay
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Simply one point.

Apparently you didn't read the others. It's impossible for Worf to be in Starfleet after WYLB, therefore, it happens BEFORE WYLB. The War is still going on. Accept it.

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I wouln't say that anyone who has ceased to post every time you rant has "realized that they couldn't win" Omega. It's more like "oh, great he comes Mr. conservative frontal lobotomy boy who only hits one note over and over and over and over..."
-Jay, July 15, 2000



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THATS THE POINT OF MY ORIGINAL POST

I assumed...as many others do...that the negotiations occured AFTER the war. There lies the problem.

I agree with you that Worf had no time after WYLB to do Insurrection activities, yet I also find it hard to believe that negotiations were occuring DURING the war...THAT is my nitpick.



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Malnurtured Snay
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You don't have to yell. I've already explained it, repeatedly.

Warring parties have often negotiated with each others. Look at the US during Vietnam. Negotiations were carried out in Paris. It's not unheard of.

Maybe the Dominion was trying to negotiate to get the Federation to surrender. Maybe they were negotiating about POW exchanges ... who knows?

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I wouln't say that anyone who has ceased to post every time you rant has "realized that they couldn't win" Omega. It's more like "oh, great he comes Mr. conservative frontal lobotomy boy who only hits one note over and over and over and over..."
-Jay, July 15, 2000


[This message has been edited by JeffKardde (edited April 12, 2001).]

[This message has been edited by JeffKardde (edited April 12, 2001).]


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Nitpickers Central
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My favorite one ... in "The Big Goodbye."

When the Holodeck doors open in Dixon Hill's office, you see a corridor wall. When Cirus Redblock and Leech step into the corridor, the holodeck corridor is to their right ... and a branching corridor is on the right!

Where'd that corridor come from? You can't see it in the original shots!

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I wouln't say that anyone who has ceased to post every time you rant has "realized that they couldn't win" Omega. It's more like "oh, great he comes Mr. conservative frontal lobotomy boy who only hits one note over and over and over and over..."
-Jay, July 15, 2000



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Malnurtured Snay
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Or when the computer tells Data to shut up in "Conspiracy" ...

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I wouln't say that anyone who has ceased to post every time you rant has "realized that they couldn't win" Omega. It's more like "oh, great he comes Mr. conservative frontal lobotomy boy who only hits one note over and over and over and over..."
-Jay, July 15, 2000



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There's an early TNG episode (I think they had set the auto destruct or something) where the computer has this long line of speech. It takes this deep breath between sentances. Majel Barret must've been off stage with a microphone or something

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And quite unacustomed to fear.
But, of all, the most reckless, or so I am told,
Was Abdulah Boul Boul Ameer."
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